BIR this WED!

[Bill Owen]

What you rather do all day this Wed?

A: Take your car to Brainerd International Raceway's Open track Session

B: Go to work and wish you had done option A?


Read more
http://www.aarrf.com/events/bir_event.html


AARRF still have some openings.

All American Road Racing Federation
291 113th Avenue NE
Blaine, MN 55434-1872

Phone: 763-754-3560

Call before you send your check.

Chris Baye

[StevenMosley]

Bill,

A2 VW's are to slow for that big track. I hope you
are bringing the 1.8T up there.

:)

[Bill Owen]

Actually, my old friend Leon Carter took first place in the SCCA IT endurance race there with his 1.8 liter `84 GTI a couple years ago. He was up against 280Zs, Civic SIs, INTEGRAS, and other hot hatchs. Da boy is talented.

I may be slow in the long straight, but you better not be in front of me in the turns.

1.8T Golf...? What a pig

[ZETECF1]

I'll be there!
See you up there in a couple of days.


Patrick
#555 Ford Mustang

[Peter Hsu]

I will be there too.

Hopefully my check to the AARRF people will get there in time. I had to mail it from Dallas.

Peter Hsu

[weidnerpaul]

I may be slow in the long straight, but you better not be in front of me in the turns.

Bill,
Thats cause you'll be getting loose, spinning out and getting in everyones way---right
:p ;) :p ;) :p

Paul
PS. Thats just sour grapes and envy cause I can't be there...
I am planning on making the BMW clubs driver training w/e at BIR next spring though.

[Bill Owen]

Thats cause you'll be getting loose, spinning out and getting in everyones way


If it rains tommorow, that just may be the case :)

Hey, check out this Racer's guide to BIR... good info for first timers

http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/Brainerd.html#GettingThere

[Ryan Brosch]

On the AARRF website they mention a class/braking exercises for novices/semi-experienced drivers... You guys have any idea what is meant by "semi-experienced"? I have been to two AARRF events as well as two other track events at MHSC, how much would I have to gain from going through their "class"?

My RX-7 will be there... partly cloudy and 79 degrees, should be a perfect day.

Ryan

[Bill Owen]

how much would I have to gain from going through their "class"?


Ive never done it, but it sounds pretty cool and it never hurts to get some more experienced input on your driving. I personally don't think I'd lose out by taking either the class or running with the expeirienced drivers. Contact Suburban Corvettes for more input to your question before they "Head up north!"

http://www.suburbancorvettesmn.com/

[Peter Hsu]

if it rains I am going to have the most expensive picnic ever

Peter Hsu

[Ryan Brosch]

I will just ask someone when I get up there. I think I probably will take their class... according to their proposed schedule, there is only about 30 minutes difference in on-track time between the class students and the "experienced" driver crew.

I have run at St Cloud in the rain... my street tires were a touch more slippery, but it was a great learning experience.

Ryan

[Ryan Brosch]

BIR was awesome, as expected. A big thank you from me to AARRF for organizing this event!

The Vette guys mentioned they were planning another session sometime in September? Anyone happen to get more information?

Ryan

[Bill Owen]

September 11th...I don't what the fee is yet

Ryan, did you take the class? I did and realized after 10 mins I would have been fine running in the experienced group. Being that most of us already AARRF, we knew about car control and a parade lap would have sufficed. Threshold braking exercise?! Arrgh, Lets get out there! Other than that, I really enjoyed myself and Suburban Corvette people were cool. Id definately go back. I heard AARRF would post our lap times on their site if you didn't get a print out. I didn't.

I could hold a steady 110 mph though turn 1... Thats all my 1.8 would do with the pedal mashed down. The highlight of the day was riding shotgun in the prepared `67 Camero w/ 396 V8... Manuel steering, street tires and youre chasing down a Corvette in turns 6,7, 8,9... talk about a RUSH!!!!!!! I'll never forget that.


Bill

[Ryan Brosch]

Agreed. I could have done with a parade lap or two with an experienced driver to explain some aspects of the course, but that's all I really needed. The threshold braking exercise was a waste of time. It might have been useful if there was any spot on the course where we had to brake all the way down from 60 mph. In order to be more useful they should have just had one set of cones way down at the end of the road. Maybe we could have gotten a little more speed before hitting the brakes. I would have gotten more out of that.

By the end of the day I was holding around 120 mph through turn 1. I was still letting up considerably, I just couldn't convince myself that it was safe to try and hold @ 135 into that turn. Looking back on it, perhaps asking for a ride with one of the faster Vette guys would have cured my fears. Or that blue Viper... yum.

Put up another message if you manage to get more details on the Sept 11th event. I could definately do that again.

Ryan

[ZETECF1]

Great time even though I went through 2 brand new sets of brake pads. I'll be there in September!

[Bill Owen]

My pads hardly wore at all.. I run "Brakeman" carbon metallic pads all the way round and didn't even find dust on my rims. I put 105 track miles on them wed.

Do you trail brake?