Registration now open for 2006 MAC Novice School [Archive]

MNbiker

02-26-2006, 10:42 PM

Online Registration is now open for the 2006 MAC Novice Autocross School. This is an excellent and inexpensive way to get started in the sport of Autocross.

Click Here to Register Now! (http://www.myautoevents.com/pls/mae/frmEventDetail.Show?psevent_id=4940)

dsldsl

02-26-2006, 11:27 PM

Im in :)

Lancimus

02-26-2006, 11:40 PM

again...effin prom...

EWAustin

02-26-2006, 11:43 PM

Trying to register, having problems with the login (e-mailed their tech). Any chance I can reserve a seat through here just in case it fills up before I get a response?

austinpike

02-27-2006, 12:00 AM

off-topic, but MOWOG 2 isn't showing up on the myautoevents calendar...?

MNbiker

02-27-2006, 12:19 AM

off-topic, but MOWOG 2 isn't showing up on the myautoevents calendar...?
Not sure when you looked, but I just added all the MAC events to MAE tonight.

Citizen_Insane

02-27-2006, 01:32 AM

I'm in too, I'm really looking forward to my first event!

EWAustin

02-27-2006, 10:40 AM

In like Flynn...

austinpike

02-27-2006, 10:47 AM

Not sure when you looked, but I just added all the MAC events to MAE tonight. looks like in the "Event Quick Search" box if you type MOWOG it comes up, but for some reason if you input MAC it does not, though the other mowogs do.

MN01GXE

02-27-2006, 02:06 PM

See you all there...

MNbiker

02-27-2006, 02:28 PM

looks like in the "Event Quick Search" box if you type MOWOG it comes up, but for some reason if you input MAC it does not, though the other mowogs do.

The easiest way to find all the MAC events is simply search for all events in Minnesota. ;)

EWAustin

02-27-2006, 06:20 PM

I've got a question, are numbers required for the novice school or can I wait until afterwards to get some?

MN01GXE

02-27-2006, 06:28 PM

Unless this year is different, no. It is a school, not a competition (notice everyone is classed SI for registrations purposes).

washburn

02-27-2006, 06:28 PM

You do not need numbers for the school.

EWAustin

02-27-2006, 06:42 PM

I did notice that everyone was classed as SI, but I didn't know if there would be a need to Identify the drivers at a distance.
Thanks, this means I can put off the numbers for a little while longer.

MNbiker

02-27-2006, 07:05 PM

I've got a question, are numbers required for the novice school or can I wait until afterwards to get some?

Not required. However, I think Phil is planning to be at the classroom session again this year, so students can reserve numbers. Last year, he also had inexpensive magnetic numbers available.

phile

02-27-2006, 08:52 PM

Not required. However, I think Phil is planning to be at the classroom session again this year, so students can reserve numbers. Last year, he also had inexpensive magnetic numbers available.
Yes, I plan to be there to reserve numbers. I urge folks who read this forum to beat the rush and do it now, however. See the Permanent Number Update under "General Discussion".

I will have magnetics to sell if I get my act together and make some. I already have some orders, so those come first. You may want to order those now, too. See my explanation under rules and classes in this forum.

I can't rule out a price increase, but if you have ordered them from me, your price is locked.

washburn

02-28-2006, 08:09 AM

For convenience and time savings, Phil has by far the best deal going. Why mess around gatherin all the stuff you need when Phil already has it done. Well worth it.

We will be tuiming you at the Novice school, but you will only see the displayed time after the run. We do not record them. If you want to compare your time, you will have to remember them or jot them down.

MrBlackIS300

02-28-2006, 07:24 PM

I just signed up. Dang! I'm excited for this year.

MN01GXE

02-28-2006, 07:32 PM

In an odd case of "it's a small world after all" (cue cheesy music), my work life collides with my personal life. A gentleman whose career I have come to appreciate and admire (without having met him personally yet) has joined the autox excitement with an entry into the novice class...welcome Jared and his 01 Impreza!

washburn

03-01-2006, 08:19 AM

Jared??? From those Subway commercials?? Cool. :)

BergeGuy

03-01-2006, 09:08 AM

This the guy?
http://www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/team_members/tmm_JaredRypkaHauer.html

Got to love Google. From the site, "Jared enjoys skiing, autocross, mountain biking, horseback riding, and fishing."

MN01GXE

03-01-2006, 10:59 AM

stoooo

03-01-2006, 12:36 PM

Let me just fix this for you...
welcome Jared in Stoooo's 01 Impreza!
He doesn't pay much attention to this board (yet) so I have alerted him to the fact that he's being talked about. Perhaps he'll chime in himself later.

Bye for now,
Stuart.

yamie700

03-01-2006, 12:46 PM

I'm in, and I already ordered numbers from phile. I can't wait to see what the wagoan (and I) can do!

BergeGuy

03-01-2006, 02:02 PM

I'll sign up when I get home from school. I had to clear the weekend with my EE design group at school, as it's the 2nd to last weekend before our presentation. Had to make sure they wouldn't object to a commitment that week end.

Dave H.

03-01-2006, 04:22 PM

Jared??? From those Subway commercials?? Cool. :)

Some friends and I met Jared at Pro-player in Wausau...ok it wasn't Jared but we pretended it was! Even snapped a picture.

ArmchairDeity

03-01-2006, 04:32 PM

That'd be the one :D So when are you signing up?

Wow... that's me! Who knew? That's actually my favorite pic of me... kinda sad, isn't it? I have been waiting for personal and professional life to criss-cross for a while now, and it finally happened. It's nice, because it means the work I'm doing professionally is starting to pay off.

Anyway, so yeah, I'll be driving le car de Stooo, but if I have may way about it I'll soon be the proud owner of a 1994 Mustang Cobra Saleen Conversion from Cali. $9k/pristine with a cool fanged grill and a double spoiler. Yeah, I know, not a traditional autoxer, but I've been a huge Pony fan for as long as I can remember and this one makes me drool every time I think about it.

I'm going to get a helmet... any ideas or suggestions about where to go and what to get? I'm a total n00b at this, so if you could advise that would be very cool.

stoooo

03-01-2006, 04:58 PM

Why, oh, why am I replying to your post here when I could just call you ?

I'm going helmet shopping next week. Wanna tag along ?

Stuart.

stoooo

03-01-2006, 05:01 PM

Some friends and I met Jared at Pro-player in Wausau...ok it wasn't Jared but we pretended it was! Even snapped a picture.

http://mail.google.com/mail/?view=att&disp=inline&attid=0.7&th=108b710cd3580983
Care to post your Gmail ID and password so we can log into your account and look at the picture ? That's all we'd do with it. We wouldn't do anything naughty with the information. Honest, guv, you can trust us.

Stuart.

Dave H.

03-01-2006, 05:03 PM

Ha ha ha, I'll pass on that. I logged out and I could still access the picture, but apparently my computer hung on to the cookie. I'll try and host it somewhere else if I get time later...

Care to post your Gmail ID and password so we can log into your account and look at the picture ? That's all we'd do with it. We wouldn't do anything naughty with the information. Honest, guv, you can trust us.

Stuart.

Teddy.B

03-01-2006, 07:33 PM

Some friends and I met Jared at Pro-player in Wausau...ok it wasn't Jared but we pretended it was! Even snapped a picture.

Best wings ever! imo.

*edit so it pertains to the thread.....I signed up too

Dan I.

03-01-2006, 08:28 PM

Has this thread strayed too far off course?

I'm in for novice school.
First on the list, too. Neener neener neener.

BergeGuy

03-01-2006, 09:06 PM

Ok, I'm all registered. Now I wait almost 2 months. :(

MattD

03-01-2006, 09:55 PM

Has this thread strayed too far off course?

I'm in for novice school.
First on the list, too. Neener neener neener.

whoa whoa whoa... novice school? Didn't you go to Skip Barber's school? ;)

jk... Pat does a good job of presenting the fundamentals of autox - which are, not surprisingly, different than what they teach at road racing school (Nikki went to Mid-Ohio school, so I have an idea of what they teach there)...

washburn

03-02-2006, 08:13 AM

Best wings ever! imo.

*edit so it pertains to the thread.....I signed up too

I'm getting a little paranoid here. All you guys breezing in and out of Wausau, seeing the sites, having wings at Pro Players, not calling me to see if I want any wings. I'm not getting a warm fuzzy here.

Oh yeah...*edit so it pertains to the thread.....I signed up too

lotatimmy

03-02-2006, 12:28 PM

I'm in :-D, do I need to do anything other than register for the class to participate (helmet, certain clothing, etc.)?

washburn

03-02-2006, 12:57 PM

I'm in :-D, do I need to do anything other than register for the class to participate (helmet, certain clothing, etc.)?

Basically you'll need to have your car ready to be tech inspected at the classroom session on Saturday. If there's any doubts about what might not pass, bring them up early so we can help you deal with them before the class. You can shoot a note out about anything your not sure about.

Otherwise just bring yourself, the class will go through all the other stuff you'll need to bring to the parking lot. :)

lotatimmy

03-02-2006, 01:07 PM

I just want to remeber to grab what I need, as I won't be coming back to Mankato between the event days. I'll bring my helmet, I'm not sure if there is clothing restrictions (long pants, long shirt, etc)

As far as the inspection, seems like if a car is street legal and "solid" it should be fine. Only question is, do I need a number on the side of my car?

-Tim

weidnerpaul

03-02-2006, 01:09 PM

PeteySi

03-02-2006, 02:38 PM

Haven't been to the forum in a week or two--got very busy at work. Awesome to see registration was open!

Looking forward to meeting many of you in person on Apr 22 & 23 (if I'm not working).

EWAustin

03-02-2006, 04:21 PM

Haven't been to the forum in a week or two--got very busy at work. Awesome to see registration was open!

Looking forward to meeting many of you in person on Aug 22 & 23 (if I'm not working).

Ummm, did you mean April 22nd & 23rd?

PeteySi

03-02-2006, 04:25 PM

I don't know what you're talking about. My message says Apil! ;)

EWAustin

03-02-2006, 04:31 PM

I don't know what you're talking about. My message says Apil! ;)

No it doesn't, it says Apr. So, what month is Apil anyways?

lotatimmy

03-02-2006, 04:40 PM

yea it also says edited ;-)

phile

03-03-2006, 12:48 AM

I'll bring my helmet, I'm not sure if there is clothing restrictions (long pants, long shirt, etc)

-Tim
We like you to have a pair of shoes that are firmly attached to your feet. No thongs flopping around.

You want to wear shorts and a tee-shirt, we don't care. You want to wear Rayon instead of cotton, we don't care. I always wear long trousers and long-sleeve shirts, but that's because my skin barbecues itself in the sun.

shane86

03-03-2006, 01:02 AM

Holy cow this is filling up fast...
18 Spots left as of 12:01 AM friday
I'm willing to bet this is full by monday.

ot81to

03-03-2006, 01:04 AM

Probably not enough time to register by mail.

I should probably register soon. ;)

EWAustin

03-03-2006, 01:24 AM

No thongs flopping around.:bigeyes:

Phil, I think this is in the running for the best autocrossing advice you have ever given a man.

Let me be the first to say "We ALL appreciate your hard work and dedication." :lol:

lotatimmy

03-03-2006, 02:39 AM

No thongs flopping around.

I'll be sure to get them back to the girls before the meet.

-Tim

phile

03-03-2006, 09:18 AM

I'll be sure to get them back to the girls before the meet.

-Tim
I would have thought you had bigger feet than most girls.

pinhead

03-03-2006, 09:51 AM

I would have thought you had bigger feet than most girls.

LOL... I am not sure if everyone gets this, but there is an inter-generational gap terminology snafu going on :D We had the exact same thing happen at work... One of the slightly older guys at work innocently asked one of the younger girls about the "thongs" that she was wearing ;) Hilarious.

So anyhow, back to the thong-talk :D

(and for anyone that's sincerely confused, thong used to mean sandals, in todays venacular, it means underwear typically - hopefully ONLY - worn by females)

PeteySi

03-03-2006, 10:34 AM

I think the footwear thong is called "flip-flops" in the parlance of our time. Which begs the question, why can't "flip-flop" also transpose to the undergarment thong? After all, as onomatopoeia (sp?), isn't "flip-flop" equally applicable to both products?

phile

03-03-2006, 12:56 PM

"Thong" was the default name for the footwear in Minnesota. "Flip-flip" was something they said elsewhere. Jimmy Buffett standardized it with a top-forty tune in the era when pop-tops still routinely came off of pop and beer cans.

What good is language if you can't have fun with it, I always say. Here is what Webster says:
============
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary
Main Entry: thong
Pronunciation: 'tho[ng]
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English thwong; akin to Old Norse thvengr thong
1 : a strip especially of leather or hide
2 : a sandal held on the foot by a thong fitting between the toes and connected to a strap across the top or around the sides of the foot
3 : a garment consisting of a narrow strip of fabric fitting between the legs and a waistband that is worn as underwear or the bottom piece of a bikini
- thonged /'tho[ng]d/ adjective
================
Main Entry: flip-flop
Pronunciation: 'flip-"fläp
Function: noun
1 : the sound or motion of something flapping loosely
2 a : a backward handspring b : a sudden reversal (as of direction or point of view)
3 : a usually electronic device or a circuit (as in a computer) capable of assuming either of two stable states
4 : a rubber sandal loosely fastened to the foot by a thong
- flip-flop intransitive verb
===============

"People just love to play with words." - Men At Work

ot81to

03-03-2006, 01:36 PM

I refer to flip-flops as "pimp-slides," but that's just me. I think I heard that term in So-Cal once.

jediracer

03-03-2006, 03:56 PM

So-Cal lingo is totally clown shoes, broesph.

Fox1

03-03-2006, 04:07 PM

I'm registered, as well.
Won't be my first driving event, but it will be my first driving event not on a frozen lake :D

stoooo

03-03-2006, 04:17 PM

I'm registered, as well.
Won't be my first driving event, but it will be my first driving event not on a frozen lake :D

1983 Audi UrQuattro
1985 Merkur XR4Ti (part owner, not running)
1997 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT (grocery getter)
Graveyard: '95 Integra GSR (stolen), '81 280ZX (scrapped)

Apologies in advance for going a little OT here, but I'm curious about the XR4Ti machines. Does anyone do Sierra Cosworth 4x4 swaps into these things ? That was a pretty potent machine back in the late 80's/early 90's. I was just curious after seeing the Escort Cosworth at Valley Fair last year. The Escort replaced the Sierra as the Ford WRC works car.

Bye for now,
Stuart.

weidnerpaul

03-03-2006, 04:25 PM

EWAustin

03-03-2006, 05:05 PM

I did a fair amount of reading about the XR4Tis and the Sierra 4x4 Cosworth, and while they do look pretty similarly, it's not easy, it requires floorpan modifications, custom driveshafts, and a whole bunch of other stuff. You're really better off just doing a engine swap and living with the 2WD.

Teddy.B

03-03-2006, 05:15 PM

I'm getting a little paranoid here. All you guys breezing in and out of Wausau, seeing the sites, having wings at Pro Players, not calling me to see if I want any wings. I'm not getting a warm fuzzy here.

Oh yeah...*edit so it pertains to the thread.....I signed up too

Well, I did grow up there so I come back to visit my family and friends every other month or so. If you want to meet up for wings sometime I'd be all over it, it's no fun going alone. pm me your number or something.

two things I miss about wausau, pro-players wings and philly's subs. oh and the fact that beer is half price relative to here.

washburn

03-03-2006, 05:38 PM

I live 2 blocks from Phillys. I'll PM ya and we'll meet for a beer.

Fox1

03-03-2006, 06:26 PM

Apologies in advance for going a little OT here, but I'm curious about the XR4Ti machines. Does anyone do Sierra Cosworth 4x4 swaps into these things ? That was a pretty potent machine back in the late 80's/early 90's. I was just curious after seeing the Escort Cosworth at Valley Fair last year. The Escort replaced the Sierra as the Ford WRC works car.

Bye for now,
Stuart.

Yeah, that's kind of the gold standard for XR projects, but parts are a bit rarified. We went and visited a gentleman here in town (name is escaping me) who has an XR with the Cossie AWD swap aaaaand a twin-turbo V8 under the hood. :bigeyes:

Quite a project.

Edit: actually, may have been single turbo, memory is failing me today.

Dan I.

03-03-2006, 07:49 PM

whoa whoa whoa... novice school? Didn't you go to Skip Barber's school? ;)

jk... Pat does a good job of presenting the fundamentals of autox - which are, not surprisingly, different than what they teach at road racing school (Nikki went to Mid-Ohio school, so I have an idea of what they teach there)...

Yeah, I did the Skippy school, but that was formula cars. Any time I can get seat time in my car, I'll take it!
fast car + off season susp. mods - idiot in driver's seat = all the driving instruction I can get.

p.s did she do the 3 day school?

autobahn

03-03-2006, 09:34 PM

Hey guys.

Is there any way I could reserve a spot now and pay later? I didn't get my paycheck this week for some reason and I'd rather not spend out what I have right now in case of any emergency that might come up. However, if I wait 2 weeks for my double paycheck, there won't be any spots left :(

MattD

03-03-2006, 11:34 PM

p.s did she do the 3 day school?

2-day...then I proceeded to drive us home for 16 straight hours so she could work at 6 a.m. the next day.

The bonus was that I got to sit-in on the classroom...

Dan I.

03-04-2006, 11:44 AM

2-day...then I proceeded to drive us home for 16 straight hours so she could work at 6 a.m. the next day.

The bonus was that I got to sit-in on the classroom...

Was there a celeb instructor? We had Jim Pace at Road America. He won Sebring a time or two, and 24 Hour at Le Mans twice. Needless to say, we all payed attention!

autobahn

03-04-2006, 01:32 PM

Hey, guys, me and my girlfriend just registered, but we forgot to click the "continue" link in the paypal page to apply it to our registration.

The names are Cary Christopherson and Anita Tavakley.

We don't show up on the page as registered. I think that the little blue "continue" thing on the registration page needs to be bigger, as it's easy not to see that.

So yeah, can someone fix that for us?

autobahn

03-04-2006, 01:43 PM

Nevermind, we showed up now.

MattD

03-05-2006, 12:06 AM

Was there a celeb instructor? We had Jim Pace at Road America. He won Sebring a time or two, and 24 Hour at Le Mans twice. Needless to say, we all payed attention!

Calvin Fish was the lead instructor... you'll see his face on tv race broadcasts a lot. ...but I don't really know what he himself raced.

There was some guy who was a NASCAR(?) Truck driver...don't ask me who he was...

No one real famous at the time...mostly old-timers who were done with their careers behind the wheel, and others who were on their off season, or trying to break into a new league/series.

shane86

03-05-2006, 03:06 AM

Was there a celeb instructor? We had Jim Pace at Road America. He won Sebring a time or two, and 24 Hour at Le Mans twice. Needless to say, we all payed attention!
I've met Jim Pace a couple of times at Mid-Ohio... Real nice guy, kind of quiet though.
he gave me a ride in the RSX-S pace car for the Skip Barber Race Series race that weekend :D
Keeping up with the Formula cars in a stock (other than tires) RSX-S is pretty freaking cool...

pinhead

03-06-2006, 09:59 AM

Wow, and just like that, I think we've hit the entry cap!

It looks like a fun mix of cars, too! I even see a 4th Gen Z28 :D Awesome.

ot81to

03-06-2006, 10:18 AM

Any plans for a waiting list? If so, throw me on there.

Justin Tilus
'95 Mazda Miata

washburn

03-06-2006, 01:15 PM

ot81to

03-06-2006, 01:24 PM

Thanks Pat!

There were 5 spots left when I went to bed at 1am, and when I got up this morning, it was full. :rolleyes:
-Justin

MNbiker

03-06-2006, 02:04 PM

Yeah, we should probably start one. Maybe I'll get another thread going on it, and we can do it that way.

BTW, givin that it's full, I will also respectfully ask that anyone who has already been through the school, or already has more than three events worth of autocross experience to please bow out and allow a first timer a spot. We'll use the honor system here...but we need to allow as many honest to goodness first timers as possible. Thanks!!

Hold that thought for a couple days. Since we did online registration & payment, it's going to be an administrative pain to ask people to "bow out".
We may find a way to accomodate more drivers.

-Steve

moe

03-06-2006, 04:28 PM

I will sell my spot for $100.

Check for it on ebay. Just kidding.

I have done just about 3 events worth of autocross as well as the school last year. There I admitted it. I also have a new (to me) more powerful car that I don't know how to drive. The classroom experience may not be as necessary for me, but I do need some time with an instructor in the car. Hopefully someone that will keep yelling at me to look ahead or something like that.

noise_is_life

03-06-2006, 04:38 PM

#60 here, I barely snuck in.

I'm as novice as they get.

MN01GXE

03-06-2006, 05:28 PM

As long as we are admitting things, I have a confession to make...

I took the class last year too. In my defense (or perhaps lack of honor, depending on Pat's mood?), it was the only time I have ever gotten in my car where my purpose had nothing to do with traffic laws and point A to B. I would love to find a reasonable excuse for needing to repeat, but realistically this is about spending my hard-earned money to gather knowledge and experience from a great group of instructors, and I know I left some of that behind last year. I had planned on progressing from the novice class to other competitions, and my summer got away from me far too quickly. My intent is to redeem some of that lost knowledge (or things I missed all together), and put together a good solid base for further competition and potentially more instruction on a different level. My sincere apologies to those who will be unable to participate, and I am not trying to hide that I did the class last year, nor am I trying to disrespect Pat or the other members, but this is the choice I made for myself, and until I hear otherwise, I will stick with it :D

benswen

03-06-2006, 06:00 PM

Oh great - there's going to be experienced autocrossers in the novice school. Now I'm really going to look like a noob... :)

MNbiker

03-06-2006, 06:38 PM

Anyone who's currently registered - stay that way.

Anyone who's interested in the Novice School, but didn't get in - post your name on this thread. We're working on a way to provide additional training.

washburn

03-06-2006, 07:36 PM

I didn't think about the pre-reg and pay thing. I guess that makes things more difficult. (Pat must learn to check with the board before saying things!) :) Do what Steve says...I think we'll end up finding a way to accomodate everyone in one way or another. No sweat.

ot81to

03-06-2006, 08:18 PM

BergeGuy

03-06-2006, 09:06 PM

For the record, no novice school experience, but I have done 4 events so far after I got my car last summer.

mac.man25

03-07-2006, 05:40 PM

I'd like to register for it, but it closed up before I could :(.

Also I'm at College and I don't have my car here, I will have access (easily) to my car over spring break (March 17th to 27th) I could make it to this april one, but it's a little more difficult then one when I'm on break.

Cullen

ada///M

04-03-2006, 08:31 PM

AlexL

04-03-2006, 10:49 PM

sorry if im bumping an older thread, but I havent seen the newer one for this event. Anyway, Im completely new to autoX and cant wait for the class/track time. Just wondering are friends and family welcome to watch? Is there a fee? Also I think it was answered earlier but we do not need a helmet for this event correct?
thanks
barber
Spectators are welcome at events and there is not a fee, but they do have to sign a waiver and get a wristband. I would discourage spectators at the novice school however, since it's much more focused and fast paced than the regular events and spectators can be a distraction.

You are correct that you no not need to bring a helmet. We have loaner helmets available at all events.