Dyno Day for MAC

[LSE Performance]

Host: LSE Performance
Address:
10550 CTY RD 81 Suite #219
Maple Grove, MN 55369

Date: October 21st, 2006.
When: 10am till over.


3 pulls with wideband a/f ratio logging/readout and boost logging/readout for $60.

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Get to 10 people and its $50 for 3 pulls.

Payments can be made day off.

Pm me if you have any questions or concerns.

[Tyro]

Put me down as long as it isnt snowing by then!!

[stoooo]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
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I'd like the 10am slot as discussed in the previous thread on this matter. I'll have my 3yr old with me, and his patience is limited.

Stuart.

[ricksellner]

I'll be there unless car is broke lol

[ArmchairDeity]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
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I'll be pit-crewing for Stoooo, making sure the kiddo has fresh tires and doesn't stray too far from the beaten path, so the closer to his pulls we can make mine, the better.

Laterz,
J

PS - Thanks Josh!

[somepunk22]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
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[davidv]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
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[sbuetow]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
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Weather permitting (No top and I just disconnected the heater)

[larry200]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
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[shane86]

dang... i think i'm gonna have to come out just to watch... this could be very interesting.

[esper]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
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[moe]

Originally Posted by larry200
1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
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[Tyro]

That's ten, isn't it?

[stoooo]

That's ten, isn't it?
More or less. We'd need the two fence sitters to actually show up to get the discount.

Remember, this isn't limited to 10 participants. If anyone else is interested, go ahead and sign up.

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

More or less. We'd need the two fence sitters to actually show up to get the discount.

Remember, this isn't limited to 10 participants. If anyone else is interested, go ahead and sign up.

Stuart.

Am I one of the two "fence sitters"? If so...

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
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[stoooo]

Am I one of the two "fence sitters"? If so...
Strangely, no. I was thinking of Tyro and ricksellner. But it's nice to see you on the list at last.

Stuart.

[Tyro]

I'll show up with my Accord if the 944 can't make it.

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord :P

[Galt]

Is this limited to MAC members?

[wannabfast]

probablly not, if ya got friends that want to see what they can do.. invite them..

my x isnt ready for the dyno yet.. and i think i still got the record for the shortest wheelbase.. until the mini runs... and the lowest HP... hehe

[stoooo]

Is this limited to MAC members?
I think it's limited by the number of cars LSE can get through in a day. We started it because the one we were looking at on MNSubaru was designated AWD only (with one exception). We have a mix of 2WD and AWD, so Josh will have to determine the cap on numbers, and let us know.

As Paul's signature says, we're a friendly bunch. Any friend you bring along who isn't already a club member is still a potential member.

Stuart.

[Galt]

Thanks, I'll see if I can make it.

I'm the guy who isn't a member, though I have a friend who might want to come as well.

[stoooo]

I'm the guy who isn't a member
My mistake. I often confuse MAC Member with MAC Forum member. I believe that this is only being actively advertised here right now, although we have hinted at it on the MNSubaru forum.

So, no, it is in no way limited to just MAC Members. If you can find your way to this forum, you're welcome to sign up. What vehicle would you be bringing ?

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

Strangely, no. I was thinking of Tyro and ricksellner. But it's nice to see you on the list at last.

Stuart.

Ouch!!!

Just cause some of us have to work for a living and can't live online...

[weidnerpaul]

Is this limited to MAC members?

No but you're not allowed Eric!!!

JK!!! JK!!!

Which car?
The 'Stang or the Me-ought-ah

Hope to see you there!!!
(let me know if you/the friend and or GF need a place to crash the night before to get there on time).

Beer may be involved...

[ArmchairDeity]

Ich bin ein non-MAC Mitglied.

That is, I'm not a MAC member, just a MAC Forum Member... though I'm thinking of joining anyway. What's the signup fee?

Incidentally, the AWD restriction was only part of the choice to hold a separate event. The other part of the reason was that the Subie dyno day had nearly 25 people signed up and there just wasn't room for any more. Since LSE graciously offered to host more than one event, it seemed only sensible to take our random selection of cars and create our own event.

Since we DO have so many different cars, I suspect LSE will want to keep the count a bit lower... so if you want so sign up I suggest you do it ASAP.

I'm thinking that 10 is pushing it, 15 will probably be an absolute maximum because the dyno will have to be reconfigured for so many different vehicles.

Josh?

[stoooo]

I'm thinking that 10 is pushing it, 15 will probably be an absolute maximum because the dyno will have to be reconfigured for so many different vehicles.

We might be able to squeeze more in if we can group the different drivetrains together. That's why I put the car into the listing when I signed up. I'm glad everyone else followed suit. But yes, Josh can certainly set whatever cap he likes, as it is his facility we're using.

Stuart.

[somepunk22]

10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord :P

Boo... I want 951 ride!
Nice avatar. Have you seen this one? This was always one of my favs...
http://static.flickr.com/88/243314408_06dc921727_o.jpg

[moe]

It might make sense to run all RWD, then all FWD and all AWD or something of that sort. That way it should only need a couple of major changes.

[stoooo]

Just cause some of us have to work for a living and can't live online...
A cushy desk job, a comfy chair, a hot cup of tea and a big fat pipe to the internet. Ahhh, techie-bliss.

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

A cushy desk job, a comfy chair, a hot cup of tea and a big fat pipe to the internet. Ahhh, techie-bliss.

Stuart.

And a British sense of humour...
You've got it all!
;)
Still on for Feb Sir Stew?

[stoooo]

Still on for Feb Sir Stew?
Absolutely !!! Bring it on !!! You do know that was a joke, right ? Part of that humour thing you were just talking about ? My car's way too pretty to risk it on the icy tundra of lake Mille Lacs in the dead of winter.

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

Absolutely !!! Bring it on !!! You do know that was a joke, right ? Part of that humour thing you were just talking about ? My car's way too pretty to risk it on the icy tundra of lake Mille Lacs in the dead of winter.

Stuart.

Sounds like Sir Stew is letting discretion be the better part of valour...

I win!!! I win!!!

[moe]

How much of a difference is there between a dyno dynamics dyne and a dyno jet dyne?

[MN01GXE]

How much of a difference is there between a dyno dynamics dyne and a dyno jet dyne?

Which then begs the question, how much difference is there between a dyne and a dyno?

:evil:

[ArmchairDeity]

You do know that was a joke, right ? Part of that humour thing you were just talking about ? My car's way too pretty to risk it on the icy tundra of lake Mille Lacs in the dead of winter.
You do know you can't have tundra on a lake, right?

Tundra is frozen ground, most often frozen beds of peat moss... rather hard to have a layer of that on top of ice on top of many feet of water, unless you're referring to the floating islands, which I don't think they have on Mille Lacs, mostly further north.

Just another ecology lesson from the group naturalist. ;)

J

[whizbang]

I'd like to get my car on the rollers again now that I have all the exhaust and intercooler leaks fixed.

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI

[wannabfast]

actually with their setup it really doesnt matter who goes first or in what order.. they all back the cars up onto the dyno, and do the runs..

[LSE Performance]

Wow...
Lets call this one at 15 cars.
With another "5" just like over at mnsubaru.

It just gets to be a long day strapping and unstrapping cars. We will go until we drop, I just don't want people sitting around till 8pm waiting to get on the rollers.

Also, we do back up all the cars, but we use different traction bars for different drivetrain configurations...

Thanks for the interest!!!

[91TB78]

Edit...nevermind 9/23 is the better date for me.

[Galt]

If my car is working ok, I'd like to show up. I have some things I need to fix first.

I won't call a spot yet.

[Fella]

I'm in.

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata

[stoooo]

I'm in.
Excellent. It wouldn't be a proper MAC event without at least one red Miata. :p

Stuart.

[jungle]

what kind of dyno do you have? I have done all my previous dyno runs at Elite (no longer in business), so ideally i would like to dyno on the same machine for more of an apples to apples comparison.

also what do you do for a fan?

[sapalas]

I am in. Would like to get some base numbers before i start modding.

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon

[FOCUS_ST]

Don't forget me!

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST

[FOCUS_ST]

The last time I was on the dyno I had a larger than stock set of rims and tires on. And will be running on stockers for this event. Will that throw the results two far off so that they can not be compared to my first dyno runs at DB performance?

[moe]

what kind of dyno do you have? I have done all my previous dyno runs at Elite (no longer in business), so ideally i would like to dyno on the same machine for more of an apples to apples comparison.

also what do you do for a fan?


Can anyone answer this? I know Elite had a dynojet. Can you explain the difference.

[91TB78]

It's a Dyno Dynamics Dyno...I think stated as the largest capacity in the nation. Quad retarders IIRC. Of course, apples to apples, but DD usually read lower than other dyno figures some may have seen.

[MN01GXE]

Well, enough hemming and hawing, call me #15 I guess...

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. moe (Nathan Moe) - 1995 BMW M3
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE

[ArmchairDeity]

Well, enough hemming and hawing, call me #15 I guess...

Avast, it be about time, laddy-boy! It were nary a good day whi'out'cheh on board fer a good run against Her Majesty's minions (God bless her greedy soul). There's no pirate like the Queen I always says, says I, an will be a good day to see her run her best and still come up short.

[MN01GXE]

Blah Blah Blah I'm a pirate Blah Blah Blah My car is a dyno queen Blah Blah Blah


With four more cylinders and some supercharger stickers on your hood, I hope that you dyno higher than I do. Now if you want to pit driver against driver in a feat of skill, quit avoiding the previously-agreed-to-challenge and sign up for Mowog 8 so the stooobaru and I don't have to race for the Cushy-IT-workers Cup alone.

:flame: :D

[somepunk22]

With four more cylinders and some supercharger stickers on your hood, I hope that you dyno higher than I do. Now if you want to pit driver against driver in a feat of skill, quit avoiding the previously-agreed-to-challenge and sign up for Mowog 8 so the stooobaru and I don't have to race for the Cushy-IT-workers Cup alone.

:flame: :D

lol. So is the pirate thing an IT only deal today?

[ArmchairDeity]

With four more cylinders and some supercharger stickers on your hood, I hope that you dyno higher than I do. Now if you want to pit driver against driver in a feat of skill, quit avoiding the previously-agreed-to-challenge and sign up for Mowog 8 so the stooobaru and I don't have to race for the Cushy-IT-workers Cup alone.

I told you...

We're waiting for her student loan check to arrive so I can AFFORD to sign up for it. The Cobra isn't just a gas-hog (which would be bad enough) but it requires the best food available, regular luxury baths, expensive designer shoes, and...

Wait a minute... I ended up with **2** women permanently attached to me in August!!!!!! ;) And no, not a dyno queen... that was a jab at both Stooooo (fmrly Her Majesty's Pup) and Paul (currently Her Majesty's Wannabe Pup).

[ArmchairDeity]

lol. So is the pirate thing an IT only deal today?
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

Nope...

[somepunk22]

http://www.talklikeapirate.com/

Nope...

I've seen that, and my IT friends are doing it, but no one else.

[ArmchairDeity]

I've seen that, and my IT friends are doing it, but no one else.
OK, but it's not JUST IT people... maybe geeks in general. I know some engineers that are joining in for fun.

Besides... I'm NOT IN IT! Hehehehehee... I'm in software development. I spent enough time in IT. I'm all grown up and can write software myself, thank you. ;)

Laterz!

[LSE Performance]

what kind of dyno do you have? I have done all my previous dyno runs at Elite (no longer in business), so ideally i would like to dyno on the same machine for more of an apples to apples comparison.

also what do you do for a fan?

We have a very large fan that we use for cooling.
Our dyno is a Dyno Dynamics chassis dyno. I've been told from shane that they read about 11.5% lower than elite's dynojet (2wd cars).

[LSE Performance]

The last time I was on the dyno I had a larger than stock set of rims and tires on. And will be running on stockers for this event. Will that throw the results two far off so that they can not be compared to my first dyno runs at DB performance?

Runs should be directly compariable as DB and LSE have the same dyno and both use the weather station.

[moe]

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT


Change of plans. That 15th spot is now open again.

[73GT]

I'll take the last spot

73 Opel GT


Lee Frisvold

[Fella]

Whats everyones magic number they're looking for?

I'm looking for 200hp. No it's not stock!

[stoooo]

What everyones magic number they're looking for?
At least 1whp more than Larry's RS :p

Oddly, Larry's power mods and mine are practically identical. We haven't actually found any differences yet, other than he's got about 10k more miles on his. We're curious to quantify the difference that his butt dyno detected at the TnT, and that was made apparent by me hitting the rev limiter a lot earlier than him at DCTC/MOWOG6. When I was driving his car, I was too wrapped up in the amazing lack of understeer to notice any difference in power. Apparently, my butt isn't quite as dialed in as his.

Stuart.

[FOCUS_ST]

I pulled a 136hp completely stock and know with only a CAI I want to see if there advertised 10hp gain is true. So I'm looking for 140-146 with this run.

[stoooo]

I'll take the last spot

73 Opel GT


Lee Frisvold
Hmm, if The Prez is coming, does that make this a pseudo-officially sanctioned MAC event ? Should we be printing up commemorative t-shirts and stickers so we can laud it over those who weren't able to attend ?

Stuart.

[stoooo]

I told you...

We're waiting for her student loan check to arrive so I can AFFORD to sign up for it.
Well, I hope it shows up soon. There are only 90 spots left !

Stuart.

[ArmchairDeity]

I'm gunning for... oh hell, I have no idea what I'm gunning for.

At least 300HP? It's hard to say what it'll do since it's been chipped, underdriven, oversparked and has an intake filter the size of a volleyball.

TO be honest I just don't know what to expect. I've been TOLD that it should spit out 380-400, but I'm not sure that's realistic. So... I'm just looking forward to finding OUT what it will do.

Laterz,
J

[MN01GXE]

I'm gunning for... oh hell, I have no idea what I'm gunning for.

At least 300HP? It's hard to say what it'll do since it's been chipped, underdriven, oversparked and has an intake filter the size of a volleyball.

TO be honest I just don't know what to expect. I've been TOLD that it should spit out 380-400, but I'm not sure that's realistic. So... I'm just looking forward to finding OUT what it will do.

Laterz,
J

Similar car, a few less mods (and 130 less hp then you are hoping for): http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1402797/tm.htm

Not trying to put your car down, just wasn't sure how you came to expect such high numbers? It is quick getting from work to lunch and back, but not 400hp quick...

[91TB78]

Keep in mind that this dyno is Dyno Dynamics, so it reads lower than a Dynojet or other dynos out there. To put things in perspective my 05 Subaru STi with turboback exhaust, professional tune on a 50/50 map of methanol/distilled water put down:
270whp/310wtq. The big power increase was the injection kit, but on other dynos this would have been about 300whp/370wtq give or take. A stock STi puts down about 210whp/210wtq on this dyno (300/300 crank) for comparison sake.

[stoooo]

A stock STi puts down about 210whp/210wtq on this dyno (300/300 crank) for comparison sake.
In that case, I'll be happy to see anything above 100whp out of mine.

Stuart.

[MN01GXE]

In that case, I'll be happy to see anything above 100whp out of mine.

Stuart.

I will buy you lunch if we are both over 100whp :D

[weidnerpaul]

I will buy you lunch if we are both over 100whp :D

Will you buy my lunch if I'm over 60 HP?
;)

[EWAustin]

what did you put down last time Paul?

[weidnerpaul]

what did you put down last time Paul?

Never dynoed the Sprite (or any car)...
The desktop dyno sez my engine s/b 90 hp/ft lbs +/- 5 and I figure lots of parasitic losses on a 1959 driveline...

Paul

BTW, Still thinking about the Ice Racer? I'll be getting the cars this w/e or early next week.

[EWAustin]

I thought you went out to the last dyno day. My mistake.

Will send PM about the Ice, (strange, I'm keeping a thread on-topic for a change. Mike would be proud)

[ricksellner]

It looks like u guys filled up so I'll be out this time np.Yes there dyno is a bit down from others I've tested on but that is not a bad thing either.My numbers on other dynos have been as high as 346 tq and 326 hp.On there dyno with sick motor this spring ran 311hp and 326 tq not bad just differant.The thing about there dyno is how cheap its is to get runs.Most charge alot more between 75 95 dollars.For the information u get is priceless.Without dyno pulls I would have not found issues with my car on many times.

[ArmchairDeity]

Similar car, a few less mods (and 130 less hp then you are hoping for): http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1402797/tm.htm

Not trying to put your car down, just wasn't sure how you came to expect such high numbers? It is quick getting from work to lunch and back, but not 400hp quick...
I said I was hoping for 300 and that I'd been TOLD it could be as much as 380-400, which I also said I didn't think was reasonable.

So we'll see. I'm not going to be disappointed one way or the other because I simply love the car. :)

Thanks for the link though... it's an interesting comparison.

Laterz...

[stoooo]

It looks like u guys filled up so I'll be out this time np.
Keep an eye on the thread. Someone may drop out, or Josh may be able to sneak you in.

Stuart.

[MN01GXE]

Will you buy my lunch if I'm over 60 HP?
;)

How about I lend you my laser level for a few months instead? :D

[weidnerpaul]

How about I lend you my laser level for a few months instead? :D
Only works for a tool I need to use, not one that collects dust...

[LSE Performance]

It looks like u guys filled up so I'll be out this time np.Yes there dyno is a bit down from others I've tested on but that is not a bad thing either.My numbers on other dynos have been as high as 346 tq and 326 hp.On there dyno with sick motor this spring ran 311hp and 326 tq not bad just differant.The thing about there dyno is how cheap its is to get runs.Most charge alot more between 75 95 dollars.For the information u get is priceless.Without dyno pulls I would have not found issues with my car on many times.

Just put yourself on the back of the list.

[weidnerpaul]

Depending on what's up with the Sprite I may have to pull out, I'll post when I know more...

[stoooo]

Depending on what's up with the Sprite I may have to pull out, I'll post when I know more...
The dyno day's three weeks away. You'll get it fettled by then.

Stuart.

[magicsammy]

Put me on the waiting list

[the tick]

Add one more to the waiting list (me)

[weidnerpaul]

The dyno day's three weeks away. You'll get it fettled by then.

Stuart.

Ah but I have a Festiva to fettle for the winter Ice Cross season, that may be higher on my list...
Paul
And I won't tell what fettle is if you won't!
BTW, you ever "offer up"?

[stoooo]

BTW, you ever "offer up"?
Of course, but you're not my type.

Stuart.

[ricksellner]

19 cars in one day!Is that possible?

[weidnerpaul]

Of course, but you're not my type.

Stuart.

Ummm, different kind of "offer up" you Anorak!

[LSE Performance]

Well DSMSTYLE managed 16 cars, are you guys going to beat that?

[Fella]

I'm going to strike my name from the list.

I'm not sure I'll be in the area that weekend and won't know for sure until the last min.(work stuff)

Instead of holding onto it and having the possibility of going, I'd rather give it up to someone that can make it for sure.

peace...

[LSE Performance]

Thanks for the heads up Fella.

[larry200]

Josh,

I'm sorry, but I'll also have to remove my name from the list. I've got a family conflict October 20-21.

-- Larry B.

[stoooo]

I'm sorry, but I'll also have to remove my name from the list.
******.

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

******.

Stuart.

Interchangeable?

:bigeyes:

[stoooo]

Josh,

I'm sorry, but I'll also have to remove my name from the list. I've got a family conflict October 20-21.

-- Larry B.
We are plotting to get Larry's car there even in his absence, so don't scratch him from the list just yet.

Stuart.

[esper]

I need to change the car I'm dynoing on the signup sheet, but that's not a big deal.

got something new to throw up there. Something fast =]

[stoooo]

I need to change the car I'm dynoing on the signup sheet, but that's not a big deal.

got something new to throw up there. Something fast =]
Does one have something new and fast because one finally found a buyer for one's yellow hyper-banana ?

Stuart.

[esper]

Does one have something new and fast because one finally found a buyer for one's yellow hyper-banana ?

Stuart.

nope. yellow car is still for sale. I'll be bringing something else from Ota, Gunma Prefecture on sunday though.

[stoooo]

I'll be bringing something else from Ota, Gunma Prefecture on sunday though.
Will it still be stock ?

Stuart.

[EWAustin]

Hmmm, Fuji Heavy Industries is in Ota. Get your hands on an STi?

[Galt]

So are there any openings right now? It's hard to tell.

[larry200]

Per Stooo's post above, it appears that I am still on the list, thanks to him making arrangements to get my car to and from LSE while I am out-of-town.

-- Larry B.

[LSE Performance]

We are open, just sign up.

[weidnerpaul]

It looks like the Sprite will be in action at Midway this Sunday after all and then at the dyno next week. Will there be a prize for the car with the least HP? :rolleyes:

[stoooo]

Will there be a prize for the car with the least HP? :rolleyes:
It gets the booby prize; a can of Fosters.

Stuart.

[914 Dave]

There is a possibility the 914 could be there- 50/50 at best right now. Can I just show up and see whats happening?

[Cman]

[QUOTE=moe]1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Is someone going to reconcile the list and set approximate times by Friday ....Josh ?

[LSE Performance]

Well I've had some requests to go first, 2nd, early, late etc.
We can either do a "take it as you come" or have schedule timeslots. Both work fairly well as long as people show up.

[MN01GXE]

Well I've had some requests to go first, 2nd, early, late etc.
We can either do a "take it as you come" or have schedule timeslots. Both work fairly well as long as people show up.

Scheduled is fine with me, as I would really like to know an approximation of when I will be on the rollers (because I am driving up from Faribault, because there are two other guys already given early slots that I would like to see/compare to, and because I have a scheduling conflict in the afternoon). All in favor of (approximate) scheduled times, and allowing me to go near the front of the group, raise your hand! :D

[stoooo]

Well I've had some requests to go first, 2nd, early, late etc.
We can either do a "take it as you come" or have schedule timeslots. Both work fairly well as long as people show up.
I've had dibs on the first slots since we started talking about this on the MNSubaru forums. I'll have Larry's RS with me, so that's slots 1 & 2 taken care of. I will be there before 10am.

In case anyone's forgotten, I need to be able to get in and out quick as I will have my 3yr old with me, and he's only going to put up with our car nonsense for so long, so we can't be standing around waiting.

Bye for now,
Stuart.

[esper]

i'd like to go around late morning if i can. if ther eis a signup i call dibs on the 11am-1pm zone.

[ricksellner]

Sorry, guys im out this time around wife has made plans over the top of my event.I'll catch up with u guys in spring the camaro is parked for the year.gl hf guys

[73GT]

I would like to have a slot before noon if possible.



Lee F

[davidv]

A time slot in the morning would be nice

[LSE Performance]

So everyone wants to go before noon?

[Cman]

So everone wants morning....Hmmmm. How about lets confirm the list of participants with times. Assuming 1/2hr per car....Josh is this correct ?

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman (cause I'm doing this organizing, really I'm flexible but want a time
Etc....sign-up

[MN01GXE]

That works for me. Like I said before, the earlier the better for me, as I have some other stuff going on in the afternoon :( Also, I am coming up from the Faribault area, so a rough time frame makes it easier to justify the drive.

[esper]

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman
12:30 to 1:00 - Esper (zak)

[Tyro]

So everyone wants to go before noon?

I'll go in the afternoon..more sleep for me!

[somepunk22]

I'll go in the afternoon..more sleep for me!

x2....

[stoooo]

I have a question. I know that the LSE staff will be doing the loading up of the cars onto the dyno, and actually doing the pulls, but can we ride along in the passenger seat during the pulls ? I was planning to do some logging with ecuExplorer, and it would be easier if I could run the laptop myself. If this is verboten, I'll just have to set it up to kick off from the defroster switch.

Bye for now,
Stuart.

[somepunk22]

If we have snow on our tires, will they slip on the rollers? :evil:

[esper]

I have a question. I know that the LSE staff will be doing the loading up of the cars onto the dyno, and actually doing the pulls, but can we ride along in the passenger seat during the pulls ? I was planning to do some logging with ecuExplorer, and it would be easier if I could run the laptop myself. If this is verboten, I'll just have to set it up to kick off from the defroster switch.

Bye for now,
Stuart.

that should not be a problem. you can also probably data log from outside of the car if the cable is long enough.

[davidv]

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman
12:30 to 1:00 - Esper (zak)
1:00 to 1:30 - Davidv

[stoooo]

you can also probably data log from outside of the car if the cable is long enough.
It's not. And I'd feel much safer inside the car, away from the quickly spinning wheels and drums.

On another note, does LSE have a nice big coffee machine ? If they provide the coffee, I might be inclined to bring along a few doughnuts.

Stuart.

[Tyro]

I felt this needed a little bit of organization.

Thought I'd give someone else the chance to pick their timeslot as my day is open.

Is 30 minutes per car enough time??

Participants:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 1975 Mini Cooper S
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Schedule:

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman
12:30 to 1:00 - Esper (zak)
1:00 to 1:30 - Davidv
1:30 to 2:00 -
2:00 to 2:30 -
2:30 to 3:00 -
3:00 to 3:30 -
3:30 to 4:00 -
4:00 to 4:30 -
4:30 to 5:00 -
5:00 to 5:30 -
5:30 to 6:00 -

[FOCUS_ST]

I would like to take the 1:30-2:00 slot

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman
12:30 to 1:00 - Esper (zak)
1:00 to 1:30 - Davidv
1:30 to 2:00 - FOCUS_ST
2:00 to 2:30 -
2:30 to 3:00 -
3:00 to 3:30 -
3:30 to 4:00 -
4:00 to 4:30 -
4:30 to 5:00 -
5:00 to 5:30 -
5:30 to 6:00 -

[somepunk22]

They will run that late? Didn't they want to group cars together by drivetrain? Also I don't really want to pick a time. I'm waiting for a new ecu to arrive, and if it doesn't, my spot will be open.

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman
12:30 to 1:00 - Esper (zak)
1:00 to 1:30 - Davidv
1:30 to 2:00 - FOCUS_ST
2:00 to 2:30 - somepunk22
2:30 to 3:00 -
3:00 to 3:30 -
3:30 to 4:00 -
4:00 to 4:30 -
4:30 to 5:00 -
5:00 to 5:30 -
5:30 to 6:00 -

[sapalas]

I would like to run at about 2:30-3:00

10:00 to 10:30 - Stoo 1
10:30 to 11:00 - Stoo 2
11:00 to 11:30 - MN01GXE
11:30 to 12:00 - Lee
12:00 to 12:30 - Cman
12:30 to 1:00 - Esper (zak)
1:00 to 1:30 - Davidv
1:30 to 2:00 - FOCUS_ST
2:00 to 2:30 - somepunk22
2:30 to 3:00 - sapalas
3:00 to 3:30 -
3:30 to 4:00 -
4:00 to 4:30 -
4:30 to 5:00 -
5:00 to 5:30 -
5:30 to 6:00 -

[Tyro]

They will run that late? Didn't they want to group cars together by drivetrain?

Beats me..anyone know?

[LSE Performance]

I'd like to try to get similar drivetrain close together. 30 minutes is plenty of time per car, I know if we get "rolling" and the car's aren't giving us issues, 10-20minutes per car is even alot of time.
Riding along inside the vehicle for datalogging is fine. Everyone signs a "damage/liability waiver" so its your A$$ if something goes bad.
We have coffee but it is a small machine. We grill on dyno days, hopefully the weather will be nice.
See everyone saturday! If you scheduled a timeslot that is fine, but I would like to be out of here by 4-5pm. I would say get here about an hour or so early so if people are missing/etc we can get you in.
Most of the time dynodays have 1/2 show up compared to register :(.

[esper]

Is there a chance I can get going near Stoooo's cars then? I'll be bringing a AWD car as well, so that would be all of them close together.

the list has me as a 75 mini cooper, but instead i'll be bringing the 06 WRX wagon.

[MN01GXE]

I will just show up at 10, and see how early I can get in I guess...

[weidnerpaul]

Count me out, the Sprite won't be fixed by then.

[LSE Performance]

Participants:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Schedule:

10:00 to 10:20 - Stoo 1
10:20 to 10:40 - Stoo 2
10:40 to 11:00 - Esper (zak)
10:40 to 11:00 - MN01GXE
11:20 to 11:40 - Lee
11:40 to 12:00 - Cman
12:00 to 12:20 -Davidv
12:20 to 12:40 -
12:40 to 1:00 -
1:00 to 1:30-----------Lunch.
1:30-1:50
2:00-2:20
2:20-2:40
2:40-3:00
3:00-3:20
3:20-3:40
5:00pm EVERYONE GO HOME ;).

There I adjusted the schedule. Does that work for everyone? I moved a few people around, let me know.

[whizbang]

Participants:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Schedule:

10:00 to 10:20 - Stoo 1
10:20 to 10:40 - Stoo 2
10:40 to 11:00 - Esper (zak)
10:40 to 11:00 - MN01GXE
11:20 to 11:40 - Lee
11:40 to 12:00 - Cman
12:00 to 12:20 -Davidv
12:20 to 12:40 - Mike D
12:40 to 1:00 -
1:00 to 1:30-----------Lunch.
1:30-1:50
2:00-2:20
2:20-2:40
2:40-3:00
3:00-3:20
3:20-3:40
5:00pm EVERYONE GO HOME ;) .

[sbuetow]

Participants:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Schedule:

10:00 to 10:20 - Stoo 1
10:20 to 10:40 - Stoo 2
10:40 to 11:00 - Esper (zak)
10:40 to 11:00 - MN01GXE
11:20 to 11:40 - Lee
11:40 to 12:00 - Cman
12:00 to 12:20 -Davidv
12:20 to 12:40 - Mike D
12:40 to 1:00 - Steve B
1:00 to 1:30-----------Lunch.
1:30-1:50
2:00-2:20
2:20-2:40
2:40-3:00
3:00-3:20
3:20-3:40
5:00pm EVERYONE GO HOME ;) .

I hope to be on time if the weather cooperates. (Rain with R-compounds and no top don't work well together)

[914 Dave]

I'm out. Won't even be able to attend to spectate. Post results. This should be fun...

[sapalas]

Participants:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Schedule:

10:00 to 10:20 - Stoo 1
10:20 to 10:40 - Stoo 2
10:40 to 11:00 - Esper (zak)
10:40 to 11:00 - MN01GXE
11:20 to 11:40 - Lee
11:40 to 12:00 - Cman
12:00 to 12:20 -Davidv
12:20 to 12:40 - Mike D
12:40 to 1:00 - Steve B
1:00 to 1:30-----------Lunch.
1:30-1:50 - Shaun S
2:00-2:20
2:20-2:40
2:40-3:00
3:00-3:20
3:20-3:40
5:00pm EVERYONE GO HOME .


I'll take 1:30 to 1:50, unless you want me to be there early to run with the other AWD cars.

[LSE Performance]

Participants:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Focus_ST (Jason Raska) - 2005 Focus ST
15. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
16. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

Schedule:

10:00 to 10:20 - Stoo 1
10:20 to 10:40 - Stoo 2
10:40 to 11:00 - Esper (zak)
10:40 to 11:00 - MN01GXE
11:20 to 11:40 - Lee
11:40 to 12:00 - Cman
12:00 to 12:20 -Davidv
12:20 to 12:40 - Mike D
12:40 to 1:00 - Steve B
1:00 to 1:30-----------Lunch.
1:30-1:50 - Shaun S
2:00-2:20
2:20-2:40
2:40-3:00
3:00-3:20
3:20-3:40
5:00pm EVERYONE GO HOME .


I'll take 1:30 to 1:50, unless you want me to be there early to run with the other AWD cars.

That would be cool if you could. Anyone that isn't awd care to move back 20 minutes?

[FOCUS_ST]

Short notice but I am going to have to pass on this also. So for any one that wants to dyno there car a spot is now open.

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
14. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
15. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

[weidnerpaul]

Short notice but I am going to have to pass on this also. So for any one that wants to dyno there car a spot is now open.

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec)
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE
9. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord
10. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI
11. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata
12. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon
13. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT
14. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)


Posted above that I couldn't go, car issues but never took myself off the list...

[somepunk22]

So are we basically trying to get the awd guys done by 11:30-12ish, and then first come first serve?

[aansorge]

My predictions:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS - 133 hp
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra 280 hp
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI 85 hp
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI 165 hp
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec) 118 hp
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS 134 hp
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon 212 hp
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE 98 hp
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite 71 hp
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord 170hp or 112 hp
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI 166 hp
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata 137 hp
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon 190 hp
14. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT 125 hp
15. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red) 109 hp

[davidv]

Originally Posted by FOCUS_ST
My predictions:

1. stoooo (Stuart Powell) - Subaru 2.5RS - 133 hp
2. ArmchairDeity (Jared Rypka-Hauer) - 1994 Mustang Cobra 280 hp
3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI 85 hp
4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI 165 hp
5. sbuetow (Steve Buetow)-2000 Birkin (2.0 litre Zetec) 118 hp
6. larry200 (Larry Bereuter) - 2000 Subaru 2.5RS 134 hp
7. esper (Izaak Jordan) - 2006 WRX Wagon 212 hp
8. MN01GXE (Rich Rein) - 2001 Nissan Sentra GXE 98 hp
9. FenceSitter#1 (Paul Weidner) - 1959 Austin Healey Sprite 71 hp
10. Tyro (Jess Meyer) 944 Turbo or Honda Accord 170hp or 112 hp
11. Whizbang (Mike Danielson) 2004 VW Jetta GLI 166 hp
12. Fella (Carl Frey) - 05' MazdaSpeed Miata 137 hp
13. sapalas (Shaun Sapala) - 2004 Subaru WRX Wagon 190 hp
14. Lee Frisvold - 1973 Opel GT 125 hp
15. Steve Clancey - 1995 Miata (not red)

4. DavidV (David Vite) - 2004 VW Jetta GLI 165 hp

I should hope to see 190-195, I had it dynoed earlier in the year at 190, Did a few tunning things.

[somepunk22]

3. somepunk22 (Dan Goffman) - 2000 Golf TDI 85 hp

I wonder if the ol' economy diesel can make over 100hp? Anybody buy me lunch if I do? :evil:

[davidv]

I wonder if the ol' economy diesel can make over 100hp? Anybody buy me lunch if I do? :evil:

I bet I could guess what you'll put down

[esper]

I'd be lucky to hit 212WHP on that dyno. My yellow car was on the same one and got 170WHP/200WTQ. A stock STi got a 207WHP/212WTQ there too. I'd say the numebr s on this aprticualr dyno can read up to 15% lower than other's ive seen. I think its interesting because the same dyno in use at DB in rogers reads much higher.

so only predicting two of us in the 200WHP+ club?

By next year I might be pushing on the MAC whp champion assuming that viper never dynos (going for 300-325 whp)

[somepunk22]

How many for the 200WTQ+ club?

So its not going to be worthwhile to try to compare previous dyno results from DB to LSEs? :?

[esper]

So its not going to be worthwhile to try to compare previous dyno results from DB to LSEs? :?

nope. they don't read the same, mainly has to do with how the load is calculated, so operator difference can be a big factor there.

dynos wont even be really comparable on different days on the same machine though, its more a tool for tuning and measuring relatives for that particular session.

[weidnerpaul]

I wonder if the ol' economy diesel can make over 100hp? Anybody buy me lunch if I do? :evil:

I'll buy you ONE slider...

[LSE Performance]

nope. they don't read the same, mainly has to do with how the load is calculated, so operator difference can be a big factor there.

dynos wont even be really comparable on different days on the same machine though, its more a tool for tuning and measuring relatives for that particular session.

Huh? They should read very similar. We use atmospheric correction, they use atmospheric correction. I know shane was giving people comparison numbers for known corrections against other dyno's.

[esper]

huh, a friend of mine said he got some pretty dramatically different numbers on the same tune. I looked aththe sheets and they were about 15% off from one another. I still think that most of the time they arent exactly similar, but yes, you can use multipliers to correct to compare it to other dynos, but its not an exact science, its all approximate.

[LSE Performance]

huh, a friend of mine said he got some pretty dramatically different numbers on the same tune. I looked aththe sheets and they were about 15% off from one another. I still think that most of the time they arent exactly similar, but yes, you can use multipliers to correct to compare it to other dynos, but its not an exact science, its all approximate.

Well if it is 15% off then 2 things happened. 1)The car broke something.
2)Someone put a correction on his graph, and we don't do that.

[stoooo]

We have coffee but it is a small machine.
OK, fire it up when you get there. My co-pilot will be foaming at the mouth for a ciggy and a cuppa by the time we get there.

I'll bring Krispy Kremes.

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

OK, fire it up when you get there. My co-pilot will be foaming at the mouth for a ciggy and a cuppa by the time we get there.

I'll bring Krispy Kremes.

Stuart.

Cigs and a cuppa for the 3 year old?

[stoooo]

Cigs and a cuppa for the 3 year old?
He's the back seat driver. I have a friend bringing my car, as I'll be driving the Larrymobile. She's the antithesis of a morning person.

Stuart.

[LSE Performance]

Today is the day!

[Tyro]

I'll be on my way soon!

What sort of payments do you accept?

Is there anything special that needs to be brought along?

Thank you

[LSE Performance]

Cash/card. Visa, master, discover cards.

[914 Dave]

So somebody spill it- what kind of #'s are being laid down...

[ArmchairDeity]

So somebody spill it- what kind of #'s are being laid down...

I started a results thread here:

http://forum.mnautox.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5575

[LSE Performance]

Great day, thanks to all that came out.