Thursday night kart league sign up [Archive]

magicsammy

10-09-2006, 01:02 PM

this sign-up list is for a 20 person league

Thursday nights at 7pm in Burnsville starting on Nov 2nd.
the first night will start at 7PM

$175 bucks pre-paid for a 6 week league (pay the first night)

1. Steve Meschke
2. Jason Raska
3. Ed Smith
4. Dan Goffman
5. David Hildebrand
6. Larry Bereuter
7. David Vite
8. Zak Jordan
9. Neal Tovsen
10. Katie Lacey
11. Darryl Wrolson
12. Barry Wrolson
13. Christopher Deutsch
14. Doug VanOrnum
15. Todd Hopps
16. Christian Banks
17. Salah Khuhro
18. Andrew Nguyen
19. Matt Murphy
20. Kyle Green

Please only post to this thread if you want to join up

davidv

10-09-2006, 01:05 PM

one question before I sign up. What time will karting be over with. I will be driving up from rochester and work at 7 Am.

magicsammy

10-09-2006, 01:09 PM

about a couple hours - probably less after we run a couple times

davidv

10-09-2006, 01:19 PM

sounds good, please add mine name to the list

FOCUS_ST

10-09-2006, 01:38 PM

Thursday will work out great, sign me up.

1. Steve Meschke
2. Dave Bahl
3. Ed Smith
4. Dan Goffman
5. David Hildebrand
6. Larry Bereuter
7. David Vite
8. Jason Raska

DaveBahl

10-09-2006, 01:40 PM

Steve, Thursday will NOT work for me, I'm gonna get into the Sunday league.

Thanks!

esper

10-09-2006, 03:04 PM

I'll sign up for thursday nights. I like to watch football on sundays usually.

-Zak

magicsammy

10-10-2006, 11:06 AM

come on - we need a few more people

If we start it a couple weeks later, would you be interested?

Chin

10-10-2006, 01:05 PM

If this was delayed to Nov, I would be much more interested.... I don't know if that is accepatable, however.

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

magicsammy

10-10-2006, 01:07 PM

OK - how many would be in if we change the start date to Nov. 2nd?

Dave H.

10-10-2006, 06:33 PM

The delay is fine with me,

FOCUS_ST

10-10-2006, 06:51 PM

A latter start date works fine for me.

davidv

10-10-2006, 07:10 PM

fine by me

esper

10-10-2006, 07:22 PM

fine by me too

ottocrosser

10-11-2006, 09:17 AM

Count Neal and I in!

larry200

10-11-2006, 09:29 AM

Count Neal and I in!

Now you're talking!

Come on, only 10 to go! Compete against a National Champion and National trophy winner!

-- Larry B.

Darryl

10-11-2006, 11:10 AM

My son Barry and I are in...

larry200

10-11-2006, 12:19 PM

My son Barry and I are in...

And the competition just got that much tougher!

Eight to go. Don't miss out.

-- Larry B.

Darryl

10-11-2006, 12:44 PM

And the competition just got that much tougher!

Eight to go. Don't miss out.

-- Larry B.

LOL...

CDeutsch

10-11-2006, 01:06 PM

Add me to the list please.

SUV-ETR

10-11-2006, 01:35 PM

My son Barry and I are in...

And the competition just got that much tougher!

Yeah...That Barry kid is TOUGH! :bigeyes:

Darryl

10-11-2006, 02:35 PM

Yeah...That Barry kid is TOUGH! :bigeyes:

He is...

larry200

10-12-2006, 09:23 AM

A friend of mine is in.

1. Steve Meschke
2. Jason Raska
3. Ed Smith
4. Dan Goffman
5. David Hildebrand
6. Larry Bereuter
7. David Vite
8. Zak Jordan
9. Neal Tovsen
10. Katie Lacey
11. Darryl Wrolson
12. Barry Wrolson
13. Christopher Deutsch
14. Doug VanOrnum

-- Larry B.

Darryl

10-12-2006, 10:06 AM

Add Todd Hopps...

magicsammy

10-12-2006, 10:12 AM

OK, I assume that everyone is OK with a Nov. 2 start date?

I would like to call and confirm this soon.

If you have any issues, please let me know ASAP

thanks

esper

10-12-2006, 01:23 PM

I am 100% ok with it. can't speak for everyone though.

Darryl

10-12-2006, 01:46 PM

I'll 2nd the 2nd...

magicsammy

10-12-2006, 03:20 PM

only 4 spots left for a Nov. 2nd start

SalahK

10-13-2006, 12:02 AM

I'm in...

Blue03CivicSi

10-13-2006, 12:33 AM

Count me in. What do most people wear while karting? Should I invest in a pair of gloves?

AlexL

10-13-2006, 12:49 AM

Count me in. What do most people wear while karting? Should I invest in a pair of gloves?
You can wear whatever you want. No matter how cold it is, you will work up a sweat, so short sleeves work best. Glove are also nice. Anything that will reduce the effort it takes to hold onto the steering wheel will amke a big difference towards the end of a race, especially early in the season when you're not used to it.

SUV-ETR

10-13-2006, 02:46 AM

Count me in. What do most people wear while karting? Should I invest in a pair of gloves?

Something like this is considered not only appropriate, but the cape adds downforce...

http://www.globaleffects.com/C_pages/Rental/Wardrobe/Costumes/SuperHero/fmansuitH.jpg

esper

10-13-2006, 08:00 AM

i'd recommend some decently narrow shoes if you have big feet and are tall. I usually wear adidas adi speeds or some kind of race oriented shoe. just not skate shoes (tried it a bunch of times, too big in my size 12, the bottoms almost didn't it into the stirrups type pedals) or boots. most tennis shoes would probably be ok. I usually wear a light zip up sweater that breathes well as it starts out chlly and gets warmer as you go.

Tyro

10-13-2006, 09:12 AM

For Neal:

http://www.sitesled.com/members/atomicbartbeans/Don't-Drink-and-Post.png

magicsammy

10-13-2006, 09:36 AM

ooooo. The competition just got a little tougher - Salah is in

only two spots left!!

CDeutsch

10-13-2006, 11:06 AM

Count me in. What do most people wear while karting? Should I invest in a pair of gloves?

I'd suggest something with a shoulder pad. If you plan on using a grappling hook, I'd recommend gloves.

http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/filmes/mad-max-2/mad-max-2-04.jpg

Gspot

10-13-2006, 06:57 PM

Thanksgiving is out, I take it?
Sign me up if so.

murph

10-13-2006, 07:51 PM

I'm in.

Thursdays sound ideal to me.

magicsammy

10-13-2006, 11:04 PM

names? I need names.

larry200

10-13-2006, 11:15 PM

19. Gspot = Kyle Greene

20. murph = Matt Murphy

-- Larry B.

magicsammy

10-14-2006, 03:10 PM

thanks

magicsammy

10-14-2006, 03:12 PM

we are now full - get ready for Nov. 2nd!

esper

10-14-2006, 04:49 PM

well, i might need to get someone to show up on nov 2nd to pay for me and replace me. My grandmother has cancer and I need to go visit her for the last time that weekend =[

magicsammy

10-16-2006, 01:50 PM

we are confirmed! See you all at 7PM at ProKart in Burnsville on Thursday, Nov. 2nd.

somepunk22

10-16-2006, 04:46 PM

If anybody wants my spot on the list, email me at dangoffman at yahoo dot com. Otherwise see you guys on the 2nd. So will there be some instruction/helpfull hints given to the novice drivers? :D

larry200

10-16-2006, 05:25 PM

I'm thinking of getting to Prokarts this Thursday evening for some practise. They're booked from 6-9pm, but as of today, they still plan to have arrive-and-drive karting from 9-11pm. (It pays to check again before you head down. Sometimes they book special events at the last minute.)

-- Larry B.

dsldsl

10-17-2006, 10:44 AM

Ok, I will take the last spot if you don't want it :)

somepunk22

10-17-2006, 11:57 AM

Ok, I will take the last spot if you don't want it :)

Thanks Don.

FOCUS_ST

10-19-2006, 07:58 AM

I just found a deal on a clutch and flywheel I cann't pass up. So the money will have to go towards this instead so I will have to remove myself from the list. So for any one not signed up yet on spot is now open.

1. Steve Meschke
2.
3. Ed Smith
4. Don
5. David Hildebrand
6. Larry Bereuter
7. David Vite
8. Zak Jordan
9. Neal Tovsen
10. Katie Lacey
11. Darryl Wrolson
12. Barry Wrolson
13. Christopher Deutsch
14. Doug VanOrnum
15. Todd Hopps
16. Christian Banks
17. Salah Khuhro
18. Andrew Nguyen
19. Matt Murphy
20. Kyle Green

magicsammy

10-19-2006, 09:30 AM

We have an opening! First come, first serve!

BergeGuy

10-19-2006, 01:10 PM

Count me in then!

magicsammy

10-19-2006, 01:32 PM

we are full up again and ready to start at 7PM on Thursday, Nov. 2

1. Steve Meschke
2. Daniel Berge
3. Ed Smith
4. Don Fisher
5. David Hildebrand
6. Larry Bereuter
7. David Vite
8. Zak Jordan
9. Neal Tovsen
10. Katie Lacey
11. Darryl Wrolson
12. Barry Wrolson
13. Christopher Deutsch
14. Doug VanOrnum
15. Todd Hopps
16. Christian Banks
17. Salah Khuhro
18. Andrew Nguyen
19. Matt Murphy
20. Kyle Green

SmokingTires

10-20-2006, 10:51 PM

Any recent openings? I have money! :)

SmokingTires

10-22-2006, 08:56 PM

No room left? :(

magicsammy

10-22-2006, 09:54 PM

be patient - we will probably have some changes before Nov. 2 ;)

ArmchairDeity

10-23-2006, 03:11 AM

If a spot opens, I may hook up with this.

If not, I'll try to hit the Sunday league... I'd prefer Sundays, but I can handle Thursdays. Either way, I'm only 5 minutes from ProKart.

J

dsldsl

10-27-2006, 09:50 AM

I am taking Dan Goffman's spot for the league. Can you update the list?

Don Fisher

magicsammy

10-27-2006, 09:53 AM

done!

Remember, we start next Thursday night!!

BergeGuy

10-30-2006, 03:18 PM

It's almost that time. I stopped by Bob's today to upgrade to a HJC CL-15 so I don't need to use a loaner. See everyone in 3 days. :p

SmokingTires

10-30-2006, 08:07 PM

Force me to use up my Sundays Karting now :( Oh well.

esper

10-31-2006, 02:14 AM

I have to give up my spot, unemployed now can't afford to pay all at once. someone PM me if they would like my place.

=[

EWAustin

10-31-2006, 07:55 AM

I have to give up my spot, unemployed now can't afford to pay all at once. someone PM me if they would like my place.

=[

Paging SmokingTires, blue light special, aisle 5. Paging SmokingTires, blue light special, aisle 5.

rdub

10-31-2006, 02:21 PM

I'm willing to be a SUB only on Thursday nights
so let me know in advance if you need someone

magicsammy

10-31-2006, 02:32 PM

Randy - want to sub for Salah this Thursday?

rdub

10-31-2006, 02:37 PM

Sure thing
put me down

magicsammy

10-31-2006, 02:41 PM

done - see u Thursday

magicsammy

10-31-2006, 02:42 PM

we still have one opening left!!

DaveBahl

10-31-2006, 03:10 PM

I can SUB too!!!

CDeutsch

10-31-2006, 03:49 PM

What are the payment options? Do we need to bring cash or is VISA "everywhere I want to be"? ;)

magicsammy

10-31-2006, 03:51 PM

either

SUV-ETR

10-31-2006, 03:52 PM

They'll do VISA.

See you guys there.

DaveBahl

10-31-2006, 04:40 PM

Am I to sub then Thursday night??? Just need to know if I should plan on it.

Steve, I replyed an hour ago as to subing on Thursday night... am I in???

OK... post it or call me. 952.294.0137

magicsammy

10-31-2006, 04:44 PM

well, we have an open spot.

Unless we get someone to grab it for the whole six weeks, I guess you can drive for the first night. Maybe we can keep this a "floating" opening

jberman

10-31-2006, 05:14 PM

Gave into temptation. I'll take Zak's spot... but I need a sub for this week (got a date!).

Zak, you interested in covering for me?

- Josh

esper

10-31-2006, 06:24 PM

ok, i gave my spot to josh, but am subbing for him this thursday.

magicsammy

10-31-2006, 06:33 PM

ok - we are full up again with Dave Bahl ready to sub if anyone can't make it

somepunk22

11-01-2006, 07:29 AM

I can sub as well. Start a substitute list?

davidv

11-01-2006, 08:58 AM

what would be the best way to get there from Rochester. I don't want to hit the traffic around 6:15.

magicsammy

11-01-2006, 09:33 AM

we are full up again and ready to start at 7PM on Thursday, Nov. 2

1. Steve Meschke
2. Daniel Berge
3. Ed Smith
4. Don Fisher
5. David Hildebrand
6. Larry Bereuter
7. David Vite
8. Josh Berman (Zak Jordan will sub first week)
9. Neal Tovsen
10. Katie Lacey
11. Darryl Wrolson
12. Barry Wrolson
13. Christopher Deutsch
14. Doug VanOrnum (John Mensch will sub first week)
15. Todd Hopps
16. Christian Banks
17. Salah Khuhro (Randy Williams will sub first week)
18. Andrew Nguyen
19. Matt Murphy
20. Kyle Green

the tick

11-01-2006, 11:10 AM

John Mensch is subbing for Doug VanOrnum the first week.......

StevenMosley

11-01-2006, 11:12 AM

I see Randy is getting practice for the ultra league. :)

magicsammy

11-01-2006, 11:36 AM

everybody should try to get there a little early so we can get paid up

Darryl

11-01-2006, 12:37 PM

I see Randy is getting practice for the ultra league. :)

Ultra league...LOL

Did you run last year, I didn't think so...

I think Neal won the league last year...

Darryl

11-01-2006, 12:38 PM

everybody should try to get there a little early so we can get paid up

By 6:30 if you can so they can explain how it will runn too...

StevenMosley

11-01-2006, 01:05 PM

Ultra league...LOL

Did you run last year, I didn't think so...

I think Neal won the league last year...

Skillingstad is the trump card on this from season one.

Edit: I also forgot about Ryan Bowers. In my mind he is favorite to win it.

CDeutsch

11-06-2006, 06:25 PM

the tick

11-09-2006, 01:24 PM

Sounds like Larry B isn't going to make it (claims too much practice on Sunday and hurt his back). I'll be subbing for him assuming I don't throw a water pump belt on the way (like I did last week......)

Darryl

11-09-2006, 01:51 PM

How long does this league go for and what are the "vacation days"? I was trying to find a list of dates (ie. 11/2, 11/9, etc) but we don't have it or I missed it. If we could update the first post with it that would be awsome.

I'm trying to figure out if I need a sub for a future date.

Sorry, I missed this post Chris...

Not sure but I think it's 6 weeks...

11/2 Done that
11/9 tonight
11/16
11/23 TGing ( I'm sure we'll skip that night)
11/30
12/7
12/14 End

Steve M. Is this correct?

New league after the 1st I assume... If we are thinking about that we should lock down the dates with PK asap...

Oh, and we should schedule an event against the Sunday fast guy league too...

larry200

11-09-2006, 02:49 PM

Turns out there's a problem with Prokart's schedule for 11/16. You'll be discussing that tonight. My personal choice would be to just tack it onto the end, which would then be 12/21.

Sorry to miss out tonight.

-- Larry B.

magicsammy

11-09-2006, 03:04 PM

Darryl

11-09-2006, 04:38 PM

Cool, I'll be in Mexico next week, so will Barry... Now we won't miss a week...

Sorry to our subs, Rdub and Dave Ball's...

larry200

11-09-2006, 04:42 PM

Mexico. Sweet...

-- Larry "stuck in Minnesota" B.

SUV-ETR

11-09-2006, 04:50 PM

Sorry to our subs, Rdub and Dave Ball's...

Isn't it supposed to be "Dave's Balls"?

Neal

Darryl

11-09-2006, 06:21 PM

Ok, Balls it is...

weidnerpaul

11-09-2006, 06:45 PM

Bahls...

magicsammy

11-10-2006, 09:40 AM

results:

Neal Tovsen - 57 points
Katie Lacey - 55 points
Barry Wrolson - 50 points
Salah Khuhro - 50 points
Ed Smith - 50 points
Darryl Wrolson - 48 points
David Vite - 41 points
Zak Jordan - 37 points
Todd Hopps - 30 points
Larry Bereuter - 29 points
Christian Banks - 27 points
Steve Meschke - 23 points (bad luck shleprock)
Don Fisher - 20 points
Kyle Green - 18 points
Andrew Nguyen - 18 points
Steve - 17 points <--- who is this??

Matt Murphy - 15 points
David Hildebrand - 12 points
Christopher Deutsch - 9 points
Doug VanOrnum - 9 points
Daniel Berge - 6 points

CDeutsch

11-10-2006, 09:47 AM

Did anyone else get screwed by traffic on 169?

I sat in traffic for an hour before I finally gave up. :x

Darryl

11-10-2006, 09:49 AM

Did anyone else get screwed by traffic on 169?

I sat in traffic for an hour before I finally gave up. :x

Yes I did, but I still made it... Accident on the south side of the river just at the end of the bridge... 4 cars, crap everywhere...

SUV-ETR

11-10-2006, 10:51 AM

Traffic **EVERYWHERE** was absolutely nutz-o! I personally saw 169, 494, 35E, and 35W. They were all parking lots. Took me over an hour to get home, and I ended up taking neighborhood streets from Eden Prairie to 77...

Darryl

11-10-2006, 12:13 PM

Tim, the dude that runs the place, said it took him 2.5 hours to get from Blane to Apple Valley... He was late too!!! It was like the first snow...

davidv

11-10-2006, 01:10 PM

magicsammy

11-10-2006, 01:18 PM

these are combined totals for the first two weeks

If I understand this correctly, you get points (10-1) for your finish in the first heat, so finish #1 = 10 pts, #2 = 9 pts , etc.

then you are awarded points for (20-1) on your overall finish.

So for the first race, I finished fifth so I got 4 points
then in the DLQ, I finished 3rd = 7 pts
4+7 = 11 pts for the week

esper

11-10-2006, 01:20 PM

those are for both weeks combined.

davidv

11-10-2006, 02:13 PM

thanks

Darryl

11-10-2006, 11:11 PM

SUV-ETR

11-11-2006, 12:08 AM

Next event sould be fun... Top ten in heat 1, inverted... 11 to 20th second heat, also inverted... Top 5 from each to the final and one from the LCQ... That will change the point standings by a lot...

Well, maybe for SOME people...hopefully not ALL of us. :D

But seriously, I do want to mention that a number of us who have done this for a while (including Tim) were talking last night about how well the "newbies" have been doing with regard to driving smart and paying attention to what's going on around them this year.

A little bit of the chrome horn is normal/expected, and having a 6-kart pile-up is simply going to happen now and then no matter who is driving. But as far as I could tell, everyone was really doing a good job of trying to pass fairly and cleanly. I think I only saw one black flag so far, but I think it was maybe just a matter of learning the ropes, because after the one penalty stop it was a non-issue.

And people were really paying attention to the blue flag...sometimes letting leaders pass before a blue flag was even waived because they were aware of what was going on around them. I know when I was being hounded by Ed in the last few laps of the main, we were able to get through and keep racing without any problem.

I'm sure the new track layout has made it easier to race clean, but it still takes a cool head and a sharp eye to drive well. So big thanks to everyone. It's been a blast so far!

And if anyone is worried about being able to turn top lap times, just keep at it. If there is one thing I've learned in the past three years of running ProKart, it is that nearly everyone catches on after a few races. Especially after they start shuffling the starting order for the heats the points battles will be close. Why do you think Katie and I are trying to get as many points as we can right away? :evil:

Neal

murph

11-11-2006, 11:12 AM

And if anyone is worried about being able to turn top lap times, just keep at it.

Heh, during the LCQ this week I took fastest lap! Now, that didn't allow me to pass Steve M., but wow, at least I had one good lap! =]

I feel like I've gone from "let them pass you without becoming a barrier" to "if they screw up bad you can pass, try to hold from there". I feel like that's pretty good progress for one week. Also I feel like I notice/understand the difference between how the karts run now, and how that changes the braking points. (and to lesser extent, the line) Maybe it was just the shoes, man that made a difference.

esper

11-12-2006, 07:00 PM

I'm still hoping people catch on slow so i can stay in the top ten. I think that a lot of people are going to get a lot faster than they might think by the end of the year. driving in traffic is pretty new to some people, but once you get used to it and learn a few of the corners people will start getting much more competitive.

larry200

11-28-2006, 10:01 AM

Thursday night kart league spot for sale.

Four events left, the next four weeks, including this week:
Nov. 30
Dec. 7
Dec. 14
Dec. 21

Bargain price: $80.00. And I'll throw in my rib-vest (normally $30 at ProKarts).

You're already in the top 50% of the field in points!

PM if interested.

-- Larry "injury is my middle name" B.

larry200

11-30-2006, 01:28 PM

Sold!

Y'all have fun!

-- Larry B.

Darryl

11-30-2006, 02:05 PM

Are we karting tonigt?

magicsammy

11-30-2006, 02:14 PM

Are we karting tonigt?

yes, we are

the tick

11-30-2006, 02:59 PM

I'll be there (just call me Larry....)

magicsammy

11-30-2006, 03:35 PM

anybody interested in subbing for me tonight?

magicsammy

11-30-2006, 03:52 PM

anybody interested in subbing for me tonight?

Aaron Youngblood will be subbing for me tonight - go get 'em!

jungle

11-30-2006, 03:55 PM

Going off of what neal said....

The thing that bothers me...is that I tend to treat karting like it is real road racing....where it cost $ and time if you crash...that and other drivers get ****ed at you if you are bending fenders on thier car. Now a lot of the people I kart with seem to have the bumper car/demolition derby mindset.

I am no expert but it seems to me that it is more adventagious to hold back and wait for the crowd to thin out, someone spin out, or someone to screw up than it is to play bumper cars. It is usually more advantagious to lift or brake than to run into someone...even though you will have to lift quite a bit to avoid that one accident that will knock you down 5 places.

the tick

11-30-2006, 11:46 PM

So week 3 is in the books. The heat races were run inverted (i.e. fast guys in the back). Heat 1 was 1st through 9th, heat 2 was "The rest of us". I'll let everyone tell thier own stories, but there was a lot of "action". This gave the points standing a bit of a shake-up, not huge changes in positions, but the points standings are a lot closer now:

1. Barry 70 (-0)
2. Ed 69 (-1)
3. Darrel 68 (-2)
4. Neal 67 (-3)
5. Izaak 65 (-5)
6. D V 64 (-6)
7. Katie 61 (-9)
8. Salah 58 (-12)
9. John 52 (-18)
10. Todd 51 (-19)
11. Steve M 43 (-27)
12. Chris 37 (-33)
13. Matt 36 (-34)
14. Christian 35 (-35)
15. Don 30 (-40)
16. Steve 28 (-42)
16. David 28 (-42)
18. Kyle 25 (-45)
19. Andrew 23 (-47)
20. Bergie 11 (-59)
21. Doug 9 (-61)

SUV-ETR

12-01-2006, 12:19 AM

Going off of what neal said....

Yeah, well...after tonite, I might have to revise that post! :evil:

Seemed like everyone was getting out their aggressions left over from being stuck with their in-laws all last weekend or something. I haven't seen that much bumping, crashing, spinning, and so forth for a long time. I was not exactly a model citizen myself, either. Katie and I were bashing it out pretty good at the back of the pack in the 1st heat. There were tons of incidents during pretty much every race...especially the main.

Let's hit the reset button on that one... 8)

Darryl

12-01-2006, 08:08 AM

Worst night of karting I’ve been involved with… Everyone, including me, sucked last night… Zero driving, all grinding, bumping…

Brutal…

Sorry Matt…

esper

12-01-2006, 09:31 AM

I didn't mind the reversed heat so much =]

I just wanted to stay out of trouble as much as possible and that strategy worked out for me ok.

the leaderboard is significantly more scrunched up now thoiugh which should make for an interesting rest of the season. Every place really counts now.

rdub

12-01-2006, 12:38 PM

Well we'll see if the Sunday League
can stay clean after all this time off

Chin

12-01-2006, 03:23 PM

..definitely not happy about being a 'victim' several times.... Oh well, such is racing. ;)

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

murph

12-02-2006, 06:10 PM

Worst night of karting I’ve been involved with… Everyone, including me, sucked last night… Zero driving, all grinding, bumping…

Brutal…

Sorry Matt…

LOL, I was having fun. If you were bumping it's because I was slow, and I seem to recall repaying the favor. =] The pass you made the second time around was good, just wish it hadn't cost me two spots. =]

The rough and tumble meant I was passed and then re-took several people several times, it was fun. I enjoyed getting to start up next to the pole, and I was proud that I could manage to only lose one position in that race. I feel like I'm getting the hang of it, even if I still don't "get" the fist turn or the far U-turn.

Zak, I really liked our little battle, managing to keep you behind me for a while, despite your weight bumping advantage, and then keeping right on you for a while even after you passed, that felt pretty good.

the tick

12-07-2006, 02:19 PM

"Rib-vest" for sale. The same as available at ProKart (that's where it came from). I have a large, it could be your's for $20

Chin

12-07-2006, 05:38 PM

I realize this is last minute...but, I have to look for a sub tonight. :( I have what I believe is some sort of eye infection starting (maybe just a stye). It is causing my eye to water and vision is limited.... I don't think it would be wise to drive tonight.

If anyone would like to get chance to run, here is that chance, even if it is late notice.

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

Ivan

12-07-2006, 06:26 PM

Chin

12-07-2006, 06:30 PM

Yes, I have...

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

Chin

12-07-2006, 06:53 PM

Thanks, Ivan.

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

magicsammy

12-08-2006, 09:25 AM

week 4 results

Neal - 93
Barry - 91
Ed - 83
John - 81
Salah - 79
Katie - 77
Zak - 76
Darryl - 74
D V - 74
Matt - 64
Chris - 62
Steve M - 61
Christian - 60
Todd - 58
Kyle - 44
Andrew - 43
Don - 35
David - 35
Steve? - 28
Doug - 18
Bergie - 14

some good racing - first race was clean, second race was a mosh pit

I got a little cranky and started pushing back and got my first black flag!

Woo! Now I'm a thug 8)

jberman

12-08-2006, 12:04 PM

Fun racin', but definitely more chrome horn than the Sunday group (so far...)

Starting from the back of the pack as a sub I wasn't able to make my way far enough to the front to avoid the LCQ.

In the LCQ I started mid-pack and after I passed I think one person, I got some of the aforementioned chrome horn (ok, chrome fender) going into the esses. Instead of settling down & concentrating on just passing, I succumbed to the red mist :x & proceeded to spin the horn-giver in the next corner.

DUMB. That had us both stationary for long enough that getting to the front was at best a distant possibility. I finished 4th or 5th, so alas I didn't make it to the show. :( Sorry Zak

Actually, I think if I had to run another 35 (!) laps right after the back-to-back 25 lappers (heat B + LCQ) I would have been one sore dude today.

So 50 fun laps, and a good lesson in being clear-headed.

Actually, Zak & I had it all planned-out that I would finish there so he will be ideally positioned to start from the front in the "front-half" heat next time ;)

- Josh

esper

12-08-2006, 12:06 PM

well, I did do better starting towards the front of the heat than the back. maybe i can inspire chaos behind me and go back up in the points again.

Darryl

12-08-2006, 01:35 PM

second race was a mosh pit

I got a little cranky and started pushing back and got my first black flag!

Woo! Now I'm a thug 8)

When you are in the group of final race spectators like I was last night you get a different perspective… You were driving well Steve, but… You had 4 karts behind you that were much faster… Yes they did hit you from behind, and from the side… But when they got beside you, you would turn in and pin them against the wall… They tried passing you on the outside, you would run them in the wall… When they got past you, you chose to use them as a break and pound them out of the way and re-pass them… It wasn’t a “thug thing” you were being black flagged for blocking… Tim, the dude running the show, said what the heck is he doing / thinking…

magicsammy

12-08-2006, 01:44 PM

I said I was a little cranky...

murph

12-08-2006, 03:40 PM

I said I was a little cranky...

LOL

"agressive passing" due to "aggressive blocking" managed to cost me 2nd place in the first round, I should have done like Ivan did (when he passed me) and just waited for my opportunity. But, after three laps or so, I was a little tired of waiting.

I'd like to thank my next-to-pole position, and my winter ski jacket and gloves for the win. Instead of being a near-cripple with muscle soreness and frozen hands by the end of the night, I was sweaty and still goin!

I think I'm gettin' the hang of this business.

Darryl

12-08-2006, 04:59 PM

my winter ski jacket and gloves for the win. Instead of being a near-cripple with muscle soreness and frozen hands by the end of the night, I was sweaty and still goin!

Alice... :)

StevenMosley

12-08-2006, 06:40 PM

you chose to use them as a break and pound them out of the way and re-pass them…

That is **** poor way to pass

That trick kept me out of the final last Sunday. I never give up the inside when people are behind me because I seem to always get spun and it usually costs me about a .5 to 1 seconds a lap to run that line, but it keeps me from getting throttled into the wall and gives the faster kart the opportunity to pass on the outside if they don't start running the same line as me.

SmokingTires

12-08-2006, 07:38 PM

That is **** poor way to pass

That trick kept me out of the final last Sunday. I never give up the inside when people are behind me because I seem to always get spun and it usually costs me about a .5 to 1 seconds a lap to run that line, but it keeps me from getting throttled into the wall and gives the faster kart the opportunity to pass on the outside if they don't start running the same line as me.

The problem with that is that if your running the fast line, you enter the corner faster than the guy who is hugging the inside, and end up tapping them. Going wide gives up too much throttle time.

I sat at the back of the finals because there wasn't any room to pass people, and I would be coming in fast and they would be fighting it out mid-corner going slower than I was. I bounced off John more than once.

Sometimes people need to just give up the spot for the sake of fun. It stinks sitting behind people for 20 laps unable to run a good time.

-Mike

Darryl

12-08-2006, 08:45 PM

Well, everyone is getting faster too... The final last night all 11 karts were in the low 22's upper 21's...

SUV-ETR

12-08-2006, 10:08 PM

That is **** poor way to pass

That trick kept me out of the final last Sunday. I never give up the inside when people are behind me...

Hmmm...you don't suppose those two statements might be a bit of a "chicken and egg" scenario, do you?

If somone is clearly faster than you, and you just sit there and take the blocking line ALL THE TIME, LAP AFTER LAP you can expect them to get a little aggressive.

Even Tim agrees with that one. We were just talking about that sort of thing before our league last night, actually. The guy in front definitely has a liegitimate right to take a defensive line. And the guy behind needs to be patient and find a legitimate way to pass. But if someone is all over you like a cheap suit for ten laps straight, and all you do is slow everyone down, you're not only being un-sportsman-like...you're just asking for someone to put you into a wall.

SalahK

12-08-2006, 11:05 PM

Well, everyone is getting faster too... The final last night all 11 karts were in the low 22's upper 21's...

Even faster still, there were around 5 or 6 Karts in the 22.4-22.5 bracket

StevenMosley

12-09-2006, 07:17 AM

Hmmm...you don't suppose those two statements might be a bit of a "chicken and egg" scenario, do you?

If somone is clearly faster than you, and you just sit there and take the blocking line ALL THE TIME, LAP AFTER LAP you can expect them to get a little aggressive.

Even Tim agrees with that one. We were just talking about that sort of thing before our league last night, actually. The guy in front definitely has a liegitimate right to take a defensive line. And the guy behind needs to be patient and find a legitimate way to pass. But if someone is all over you like a cheap suit for ten laps straight, and all you do is slow everyone down, you're not only being un-sportsman-like...you're just asking for someone to put you into a wall.

No I don't.

I don't except them to get aggressive. I expect them to find the line to get by because it is there. Holding the inside and exiting on the inside is not the fast way around, but it protects you from getting spun out or put in the wall by some unsportsmanlike person that thinks that this is the way to pass. Sure you can't make your pass in the two easy places where you get on the inside and of the person and basically run them into the wall or force them to back off, but you have other areas to pass. If someone is driving a legitimate defense line yes it is going to be slower and it is going to make them look like they are all over you like a cheap suit and if the person behind them really is that much faster they should have figured it out in less then 10 laps how to pass or at least made attempts to get along side them. Now if the defensive line means cutting the other person off when they are on the side of them that is uncalled for and they should be black flagged, but the passer needs to make that move.

SUV-ETR

12-09-2006, 12:52 PM

No I don't.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. Good luck to you.

magicsammy

12-09-2006, 01:39 PM

All I will say is that your FIRST attempt to pass someone should not be to push/slam them out ot the way - as you may find that person to be a lot less sporting about the situation after that.

Last year during a race, Neal came up behind me.

First lap, he gave me a couple taps
next lap, he gave me a couple bumps
next lap, he gave me a couple strong bumps
I got the message and moved over.

Speaking for myself, I do not always recognize who is behind me and often can't really tell how fast they are. But if someone gets the inside, I will give to them (except for last week - see previous post). But if you slam into me when I don't yield immediately because you are faster and "expect" me to roll over, get real.

Gspot

12-09-2006, 04:24 PM

I'm rolling over this year. The first two days I got spun around and winded up in last place. So now I'm just letting people by. I would rather just play the vulture and hope people get stuck in walls and black flagged and I can slowly sneak my way up half the pack.

StevenMosley

12-09-2006, 04:49 PM

In all honesty I am situational on this. If I'm running in the top 3 I'm not going to let off and pull over to let you pass, but if I'm in midpack or further backl and having fun trying to figure out the kart and doing some practicing on game day I will let people by to give myself space. (I really need to get there once when it is not league day)

the tick

12-09-2006, 11:39 PM

I can't make it this week. Anyone wanna sub? Ivan? Josh?

Barry is returning the favor, and subbing for me this week.

Have fun all!

Sorry for the confusion. Barry has offered to sub for me. Thanks for everyone who offered!

murph

12-10-2006, 11:45 PM

Last year during a race, Neal came up behind me.

First lap, he gave me a couple taps
next lap, he gave me a couple bumps
next lap, he gave me a couple strong bumps
I got the message and moved over.

I think this is the most sportsman-like way to go. Especially if it's not the last lap or something, all you're doing by continuing to block at this point is delaying the inevitable and ****ing someone off.

esper

12-11-2006, 12:36 AM

my personal opinion, if you;re so much faster than the person in front of you you should be able to pass them somewhere. If you cannot overcome clean blocking then you have an incomplete set of racing skills. In a road race if you are in a battle for a place and the car in front of you blocks legitimately for a few laps you're not just going to eventually just get frustrated enough to just put them into a wall and wreck their car just because you've decided you have had enough of sitting behind them. It means that you might be fast in the open field but there is room for improvement when it comes to making a pass. road racing (which karts are a mini-derivation of) is not the same as time trialing. Some time trialers might have blistering lap times when in the free and clear but can't handle driving in a crowd or passing effectively and those are all skills needed to be a well rounded road racer or kart driver. In any race series the more experienced and faster driers need to learn how to deal with sharing the track with the slower drivers, pro kart isn't any different. the slow guys are also going to need to know how to share the track with the fast guys but its a responsibility of both parties.

now if that person is blocking in such a way as to be unfair (such as putting the passer into the wall when they have made a legit move and have pulled alongside and will pass or assume the racing line before a turn) then the blocker is being a tool about it and also doing something that they would not normally do in a road race and would result in intentionally wrecking another's car. I don't think this is right either.

I don't see what the point in making too big a deal out of it is. Blockers need to block fairly and passers need to pass fairly.

jberman

12-11-2006, 02:16 AM

I can't make it this week. Anyone wanna sub? Ivan? Josh?

Barry is returning the favor, and subbing for me this week.

Have fun all!

I'd love to, but alas I'll be out of town, so I'll have to pass.

- Josh

SmokingTires

12-11-2006, 02:57 AM

No I don't.

My point is almost the same as before. If one person is running the inside line, and someone is tailing them, if they enter from wide on the fast line, they are bound to hit the guy going slow on the inside. If your hitting the apex, the other person will likely be there at the same time. And being that the karts don't have any real power, going out wide of the person won't give you enough to get past them. At best being beside them. I did this to Jon last week but had to back off going into the next turn.

There is a point to it when someone is blocking that you need to just get up along side of them and not give up position. And in that case, someone will likely be going into a wall. It's not fun, but neither is sitting behind people for 20 straight laps.

At some point, you have to give up being competitive for the sake of fun.

I'm hoping to not come up through the LCQ next week, and actually see what the competition is like, instead of being stuck fighting to pass the back cluster of karts.

-Mike

ricksellner

12-11-2006, 09:49 AM

Some of what might be happin is there are alot of good drivers seperated by only hundreds of a sec.With that in mind you are going to be in same spot at same time with someone at any givein point.I had a rough couple of laps (all my fault) eventully i had to let those guys pass or risk a flag.Dont get me wrong was great fun but i understood that i caught up to them passed them but they pasted me back and at that time i knew they were faster so why fight it.My inconsisent laps were not as fast as there slower more consistent ones.There is just not enough room on that track for clean raceing its gona get bumpy if u have people running nearly same lap times.Just my 2 cents.(feels like nascar out there and what fun hehe)

rdub

12-11-2006, 11:14 AM

I'll sub for you John M ,is it this thursday?

SUV-ETR

12-11-2006, 12:32 PM

my personal opinion, if you;re so much faster than the person in front of you you should be able to pass them somewhere. If you cannot overcome clean blocking then you have an incomplete set of racing skills. In a road race if you are in a battle for a place and the car in front of you blocks legitimately for a few laps you're not just going to eventually just get frustrated enough to just put them into a wall and wreck their car just because you've decided you have had enough of sitting behind them.

First off, I think that anyone who relies on the "if you're faster and you know how to drive, you should be able to pass them somewhere" either hasn't done much passing themselves, or else hasn't gotten stuck behind someone who knew how to block well.

But since neither of us have any road racing experience whatsoever, we can't directly refute this out of personal experience. But I invite you to watch each race of the SCCA Runoffs, and pay attention to the commentary. Each race is covered by either Dorsey Schroeder, one of the most famous names in American road racing, or another guy whose name I forget but also has a long history in the SCCA Club Racing ranks.

I've watched about 8 or so of the races now, and I've heard both commentators on numerous occasions say that they themselves would have gotten more aggressive when the person in front is substantially slower and blocking, or that they believed the person in back was behaving appropriately when they got past.

Looking for specific examples? Watch the T2 race where Will Turner (World Challenge and GrandAm fame) got stuck behind the 2nd place STI for lap after lap. The STI was obviously blocking in an unsportsman-like manner, but fortunately for him Will Turner is generally known for being "too nice" of a guy. Dorsey mentioned several times that he wouldn't have been.

Neal

Ukroadracer

12-11-2006, 01:18 PM

In road racing typically you are allowed one move to block, you can't weave side to side. Passing in a road race is easier than passing in a go-kart. Why? because the track is wider and the performance differential between the cars is more than that of the prokarts. I can outbrake someone a lot easier in a car. Plus there is more room to set up on the outside of a corner. Of course no one is going to give up and wreck another wheel to wheel competitor, you could kill someone. What are the chances of someone being seriously hurt at prokarts by wrecking someone intentionally.

Darryl

12-11-2006, 03:41 PM

Dorsey Schroeder, one of the most famous names in American road racing, or another guy whose name I forget but also has a long history in the SCCA Club Racing ranks.

David Hobbs...

Professional racer for 30 years in sedans, sports cars and GT cars … competed in Formula One, the Indy 500 and the Daytona 500 … F5000 champion in 1971 … Trans-Am champion in 1983 … 20 starts at the 24 Hours of Le Mans with a best finish of third (three times)

Hobbies: Car dealership, television work

And he lives in Milwaukee...

aansorge

12-11-2006, 04:40 PM

Off topic: Team Wrolson Wracing , that's cool!

AlexL

12-11-2006, 05:14 PM

It's dependant on the situation for me. If you're driving near my pace and are only holding me up in a couple spots, I'm going to try to make as clean a pass as I can. If you're holding me up for most of the lap and driving a reasonable defensive line, I'll put pressure on you for a few laps before I move you out of my way, but I won't spin you or put you into a wall. If you block aggressively, I pass aggressively. If you swerve to keep me behind you or turn me into the wall when I'm beside you, I'm not going to risk letting that happen again, so you can expect me to put you into a position where you can't try that again. Lap traffic that won't move over for more than a lap gets the same treatment.

Feel free to do the same with me, but if you spin me or put me into a wall, do yourself a favor and make sure you're fast enough that I won't catch back up to you (a couple people made that mistake last year). ;)

jungle

12-11-2006, 05:45 PM

When it comes to blocking a person on the inside, i will "shut the door" on them to keep them back there....if that person has thier front bumper even w/ my shoulders i will pull off line or lift to let them by, cuz if i don't someone is going to be in the wall, and they have then proven themselves to be faster. a few "hi, i am here, get out of my way" taps SHOULD be more than enough for the person in the lead to get out of the way. I will also not do that trick of letting the 1st kart do the braking....i will also not tap the rear corner of the car to send them into a spin, i will also not push the kart INTO the track out spot...all of which i consider dirty. There is nothing like a good "fight" out on the track, but nothing will **** people off like a dirty pass that puts someone in the wall.

SUV-ETR

12-11-2006, 05:59 PM

David Hobbs...

Are you saying that he's the guy on the Runoffs commentary team? No...that's 100% definitely not him! David Hobbs does the F1 races, and he is actually good at it.

He's someone I hadn't heard of before, but has won the Runoffs himself a couple times I guess. Sounds like a really nice guy and all, and clearly knows the SCCA, but he really sucks as a commentator. Hearing him try to describe the track layout in less than 30sec while using the video pen to point out passing zones is just PAINFUL. After about four races (all at the same track!) he's getting a *little* better...but his commentary is still filled with "um", "er", "ah", "well", "like", etc. And his accent/anunciation/style is...shall we say...less than high-class.

Neal

Darryl

12-11-2006, 06:50 PM

Sorry, I haven’t seen any of the broadcasts this year but David has done them in the past...

I like his commentary... Met him at BIR in the late 70's, had lunch with him at Road America twice in the mid 80's... Funny guy...

OK, back to karting...

the tick

12-12-2006, 09:56 AM

I'll sub for you John M ,is it this thursday?

Randy,

You're in if you still want it!

murph

12-12-2006, 10:25 AM

off topic:

Neal - what's with the new avatar and sig?

Are you going BMW in SM now??? I remember something about a rules change making SM tougher for your car now... what's up?

esper

12-12-2006, 10:30 AM

I assumed he is running in STX next year in darryl's car. It would not be monetarily feasable to make that into a competitive SM car but its already one of the top STX cars in the country.

I'd argue darryl pretty much has the most competitive nationals car in MAC (sorry everyone else).

Darryl

12-12-2006, 11:08 AM

rdub

12-12-2006, 11:27 AM

see you folks thursday

SUV-ETR

12-12-2006, 11:44 AM

I'd argue darryl pretty much has the most competitive nationals car in MAC (sorry everyone else).

Not much to argue there. The car finished 6th, 0.7sec behind the winner. Only thing close was the Scirocco, which also finished 6th, but was something like 2.3sec behind the winner.

(Though if I wanted to be snotty, I could point out that I still PAX'd higher. :p But then someone would mention that might have something to do with why SM got nailed on PAX for '07 :rolleyes: )

We figured it was time to give the Scirocco a rest, and Darryl is a tough negotiator. :D

Funny thing is that the car was previously owned by the guy who co-drove our Scirocco at the ProSolo Finale in 2004. Total coincidence, as Darryl didn't know we knew him when he started negotiating for the Bimmer. Small world, eh? 8)

Darryl

12-12-2006, 12:16 PM

see you folks thursday

Cool, starting at the back...

Again, back to Karting...

rdub

12-12-2006, 03:46 PM

commin thru

Chin

12-12-2006, 09:49 PM

commin thru

I'll wave as you go by.... :p

Christian Banks
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

stoooo

12-13-2006, 01:42 AM

Yes they are running STX with me, or me with them...
Shane's going to be a bit miffed. Does he know yet ?

Stuart.

BergeGuy

12-13-2006, 03:33 AM

Yes they are running STX with me, or me with them...

I welcome our new overlords. :p

Still, Shane and I can have our fun against each other in STX. Looks like STX will have quite the showing next season.

EWAustin

12-13-2006, 12:17 PM

Don't forget me! I'll prolly be out in the STiX too.

weidnerpaul

12-13-2006, 12:37 PM

I'll prolly be in the out

:lol:

.

EWAustin

12-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Thanks Paul :lol:

Ivan

12-13-2006, 01:51 PM

Anyone else want a sub?
I need to get some more practice before I take rdub's 2nd place (Sunday) standing away from him. :p

DaveBahl

12-14-2006, 10:34 AM

Ummm... me too... anybody??? May just have to live down there for a couple weeks... hee hee hee.

magicsammy

12-14-2006, 05:04 PM

after all this discussion, I expect that there will be nothing but perfect, sporting behavior out there tonight. Fast people waiting for their opportunities, and slower people letting the faster folks by. :)

Or a total grudge match. :x

I am hoping for the former (the good one).

weidnerpaul

12-14-2006, 05:13 PM

New leagues starting after these finish?
Judging from what I've seen on the board I suggest the following for League Names:

Thursday Thugz :evil: :evil: :evil:

and the

Sunday's Saintly Speeders :angel: :angel: :angel:

(You can go faster w/o the crash & burn, right?)

murph

12-14-2006, 05:39 PM

LOL!

I'm definitely up for doing another round this winter. There's a lot of months left till april!

(even if the weather feels like we could be autocrossing right now!)

Gspot

12-14-2006, 06:39 PM

Oops. I'm in Kansas City, I need a sub. Last minute anybody?

CDeutsch

12-14-2006, 06:40 PM

Oops. I'm in Kansas City, I need a sub. Last minute anybody?

I hate how Kansas City can sneak up on you like that. :D

Darryl

12-14-2006, 06:53 PM

Dave will sub for Gspot tonight...

Gspot

12-14-2006, 07:00 PM

Have fun Dave.

dsldsl

12-14-2006, 07:02 PM

Anyone else want to sub me? I feel like crap today

SmokingTires

12-14-2006, 07:08 PM

Anyone else want to sub me? I feel like crap today

I'd be in. What time does this league run?

-Mike

dsldsl

12-14-2006, 07:12 PM

Mike is in for me...

Don

washburn

12-15-2006, 07:38 AM

I hate how Kansas City can sneak up on you like that. :D

LOL!

You guys suck. The closest thing I have to this here in Wausau is Christmas shopping at Walmart. (They have carts too) I like to loosen up the shopper in front of me with a little bump draft. She will usually swing out wide and I can take her on the inside and get to the Houswares dept. before her.

Anyway, enjoy the karting and appreciate that you have that kind of thing close to you.

weidnerpaul

12-15-2006, 07:55 AM

LOL!

You guys suck. The closest thing I have to this here in Wausau is Christmas shopping at Walmart. (They have carts too) I like to loosen up the shopper in front of me with a little bump draft. She will usually swing out wide and I can take her on the inside and get to the Houswares dept. before her.

Anyway, enjoy the karting and appreciate that you have that kind of thing close to you.

At least you can choose your "cart" so you don't get stuck with the slow one :p

ricksellner

12-15-2006, 08:32 AM

I envy you.Nothing more aggressive Pat then holiday shopping mom.To put one in a wall before she puts you into wall.Is one big feather in males hat.(rofl)

DaveBahl

12-15-2006, 08:36 AM

Hey Gspot.... I "think" I did OK... 1st heat I finished 4th... started the finial in 4th place finished in 2nd... it was a good warm up for Sunday.

Good fun, some hard "BUMPING" going on but nothing out of the "norm". ; )

THANKS FOR THE RIDE!!!

magicsammy

12-15-2006, 09:25 AM

week 5 standings

Salah - 106 pts
Barry - 104 pts
John - 99 pts
Katie - 98 pts
Neal - 97 pts
D V - 97 pts
Darryl - 96 pts
Ed - 93 pts
Chris - 92 pts
Matt - 84 pts
Zak - 82 pts
Steve M - 79 pts
Todd - 71 pts
Kyle - 70 pts
Andrew - 69 pts
Christian - 65 pts
David - 54 pts
Don - 43 pts
Doug - 24 pts
Bergie - 19 pts

AlexL

12-15-2006, 09:44 AM

LOL!

You guys suck. The closest thing I have to this here in Wausau is Christmas shopping at Walmart. (They have carts too) I like to loosen up the shopper in front of me with a little bump draft. She will usually swing out wide and I can take her on the inside and get to the Houswares dept. before her.

Anyway, enjoy the karting and appreciate that you have that kind of thing close to you.
My girlfriend won't let me use a shopping cart anymore because I can't stop drifting them around every corner.

DaveBahl

12-15-2006, 09:46 AM

Try pushing the cart up to speed, then jump on the back and hold your arms out like your flying... people look at you funny... huh...

EWAustin

12-15-2006, 10:26 AM

I like to either drift the cart, or get it up to speed and jump on then touch the rear wheels with my toes to make it turn.

Oh yeah, perfect Apex's every time too :lol:

CDeutsch

12-17-2006, 06:33 PM

shane86

12-17-2006, 06:47 PM

I can't make it for the last event. :( I'm going to ND for X-mas.

Anybody want to buy my spot this Thursday for $20 via PayPal? You'll get at least two sessions of karting, plus it's the last event so there will be pizza and pop (and rumors of some adult beverages) at the end.

Wish I could make it.
Ah what the hell... DIBS!
i know i'll get pwned by you guys... but it'll be fun. :D
Chris, send me your e-mail via PM and i'll send you the fundage tonight.

SmokingTires

12-17-2006, 06:51 PM

I can't make it for the last event. :( I'm going to ND for X-mas.

Anybody want to buy my spot this Thursday for $20 via PayPal? You'll get at least two sessions of karting, plus it's the last event so there will be pizza and pop (and rumors of some adult beverages) at the end.

Wish I could make it.

I'll sub for free if you need it :) No money to play with though.

shane86

12-17-2006, 06:54 PM

I'll sub for free if you need it :) No money to play with though. Pft! beat ya too it :)

CDeutsch

12-17-2006, 07:16 PM

Spot is sold! Thanks Shane! Have fun!

shane86

12-17-2006, 09:53 PM

Spot is sold! Thanks Shane! Have fun!i'm not real sure the extreme beat down that i'm going to receive is going to be "Fun" but i'm gonna try real hard :D

weidnerpaul

12-18-2006, 12:32 AM

i'm not real sure the extreme beat down that i'm going to receive is going to be "Fun" but i'm gonna try real hard :D

You afeard them Thursday Thugz is gonna open a can of whoop-ass on you?

SmokingTires

12-20-2006, 06:19 PM

Anyone need a sub yet? :)

Dan I.

12-20-2006, 07:36 PM

I'm gonna sub for Don...

neener neener

SmokingTires

12-20-2006, 09:58 PM

You afeard them Thursday Thugz is gonna open a can of whoop-ass on you?

Truthfuly, the guys on Thursday drove a lot cleaner than Sunday last weekend.

SUV-ETR

12-20-2006, 11:16 PM

Truthfuly, the guys on Thursday drove a lot cleaner than Sunday last weekend.

Totally, completely, 100% disagree. <shrug>

shane86

12-20-2006, 11:28 PM

You afeard them Thursday Thugz is gonna open a can of whoop-ass on you?
Ummm.... yes.
i haven't been to prokart in months... i'm sure i'll be rusty.
and they'd have kicked my ass anyway :oops:
now it'll just be a bigger gap...

i hope i can remember my "SUPER ULTIMATE MASTER BLOCKING TECHNIQUE"

SmokingTires

12-20-2006, 11:36 PM

Totally, completely, 100% disagree. <shrug>

Fair enough. We were in different parts of the pack each day.

-Mike

Darryl

12-22-2006, 08:03 AM

Final points…

Barry - 130 pts
Salah - 129 pts
Katie - 116 pts
Ed - 116 pts
D V - 115 pts
Matt - 111 pts
John - 109 pts
Neal - 106 pts
Darryl - 101 pts
Steve M - 97 pts
Chris - 92 pts
Kyle - 90 pts
Zak - 88 pts
Todd - 87 pts
Andrew - 80 pts
Christian - 65 pts
David - 65 pts
Don - 49 pts
Doug - 44 pts
Bergie - 35 pts

Congratulation’s Barry, Salah, and Katie/Ed for your podium finish… That was close...

Great final race... Barry, Salah and Katie started at the back... Barry won, Salah was 3rd and Katie came across the line in 4th...

Matt was the obvious choice most improved…

CDeutsch

12-22-2006, 10:40 AM

Hey Shane. What happened my point total didn't move? ;)

Thanks for all the tips MAC guys! I had a lot of fun and I never would have had a lap time in the 21's without you guys!

magicsammy

12-22-2006, 10:43 AM

Hey Shane. What happened my point total didn't move? ;)

Thanks for all the tips MAC guys! I had a lot of fun and I never would have had a lap time in the 21's without you guys!

He did not show. Couldn't face the Thursday Thugz.

SmokingTires

12-22-2006, 10:45 AM

He did not show. Couldn't face the Thursday Thugz.

I would have showed :)

weidnerpaul

12-22-2006, 11:06 AM

He did not show. Couldn't face the Thursday Thugz.

Good to see the name being used. Are you getting T-shirts? I bet Matt could whip up a logo for you.
:D

Chin

12-22-2006, 11:12 AM

Grrr! I was stuck at work with a crisis! :(

Christian Banks (...hates evening calls to Asia!)
#202 DSP
'00 Impreza 2.5RS

murph

12-22-2006, 12:07 PM

Yay for 6th place!

I'm loving the karting, shooting for top-3 next round. =]

So, is Neal organizing the next league, or was he just being volunteered by the pro kart guy? (what's his name, anyway?)

If nobody else wants to do it, I know how to work a spreadsheet with the best of 'em...

When is the sunday crew done?

the tick

12-22-2006, 12:12 PM

I still want to hear about the Thursday Thugs vs the Sunday (?) grudge match.

Tim suggested a pair of 100 lap enduros, 5 Thursday teams, 5 Sundays teams......

rdub

12-22-2006, 12:30 PM

yes enduro please

chuck b

12-22-2006, 01:57 PM

what are "good" lap times?

I finally made it back after a year+ away from the karts. I was able to touch the 21s on my second session of the new track. There was no real traffic to speak of. I think it'll take me another half dozen sessions to explore different lines.
Also, how many laps before the tires reach their max grip? And then do they fall off?
out

rdub

12-22-2006, 02:03 PM

phile

12-22-2006, 02:21 PM

21's are good times
the real fast guys do 20's,but I've never been there
Andy's new brother-in-law held the track record at the defunct Blaine location.

shane86

12-22-2006, 02:27 PM

He did not show. Couldn't face the Thursday Thugz.
'Rents came home from AZ.... blew a gasket over stupid little things that could be handled later. it literally came down to i'm walking out the door with my keys in hand when they stopped me...

Trust me... i was ****ED that i missed it. :x

SmokingTires

12-22-2006, 04:10 PM

21's are good times
the real fast guys do 20's,but I've never been there
the track surface changes too
last week sunday most everyone was in the 22's
2 weeks before it was low 21's
so there are alot of variables ....sort of each week can be different
but you're competetive with us at 21's
too bad there's TRAFFIC
join up next time for a league

Someone had told me that they had an oil spill during the week, and had to scrub down the whole track. Don't know if it is true or not, but it might explain the slower times.