Sunday Burnsville Prokart League

[StevenMosley]

I am setting up a league on Sunday mornings at 11:15am.

Dates are:
11/5
12/3
12/17
1/7
1/21
2/4

We need 10 to play.

1. Steven Mosley
2. Chris Mosley
3. Rick Sellner
4. Ryan Bowers
5. Alex Lowe
6. Dave Bahl
7. Mike Brausen
8. Randy Williams
9. Ivan Austin
10. Terry Littlefield
11. Josh Berman
12. Barry Stuart
13. Mark Amfahr
14. Chris DeLay
15. Dean Laird
16. Rick Wohlers
17. Chris-Ivan DeJesus

PM if you want in.

[SUV-ETR]

4. John Boos

If you ever wanted to test your skills against a driver in the Speed World Challenge GT series, now's your chance!! :evil:

[DaveBahl]

Hey Steve, I think Randy was going to set this up, but, I do wanna run Sunday's, so, I guess I'm saying I'm in!!!!! WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

[StevenMosley]

If you ever wanted to test your skills against a driver in the Speed World Challenge GT series, now's your chance!! :evil:

I think Randy is looking at it and going SKILLINGSTAD. That bum won the season uno championship from me.

[Ivan]

What's the price... Same as the other league?

[StevenMosley]

yes it is the standard rate

[rdub]

I wasn't gonna start one till after Thanksgiving
But since its started
I'm in too
Mark me in Randy Williams
don't want to miss out on this "slug-fest"

[EWAustin]

10 is the minimum, 20 is the max, right? I'm trying to talk my brother into it.

[StevenMosley]

no we are maxed at 10. If you go over 10 you need 16. I'm capping at 10. We could do a league right after it, but someone else will have to take charge of it.

2 spots left.

[Ivan]

Yeah, I'm in...

--Ivan

[DaveBahl]

Terry Littlefield is in also. 778 bug guy!

[StevenMosley]

Cool. It looks like we are full. See everyone on Sunday.

[StevenMosley]

Boos is out. We have one opening yet.

[DaveBahl]

Rick!!!!! Get your butt on line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gohard123]

PM sent

[StevenMosley]

full again

[jberman]

PM sent... if someone drops out, I'm interested; if nobody drops out, please keep me in mind as a "sub"

- Josh

[magicsammy]

Josh - we have an opening for Thursday night league

[StevenMosley]

PM sent... if someone drops out, I'm interested; if nobody drops out, please keep me in mind as a "sub"

- Josh

First Sub Status

[ricksellner]

We'll no biggie if I could I'll sub if not im hopeing for some snow to get sled out

[BS1]

Put me on the sub list too please.

[SmokingTires]

This weekend is the start? So much for bringing my car to Iowa this weekend. I guess I'll have to bring it down next week.

I'm ready for karting!!!! Although I'm a noob :(

[StevenMosley]

I'm going to see if we can expand to 16. If we can get 6 more we should be set.

See orginal post for new list. I added Barry and Josh since they are on the waiting list.

[ricksellner]

pick me pick me (jumping like puppy in the window of a puppy store)

[StevenMosley]

Rick has been added

[StevenMosley]

16 person league has been approved. Skillingstad jumped ship because he is scared.

[SUV-ETR]

Katie and I would probably sub if anyone needs one. But we're in the other league, and two leagues a week for six weeks in a row is pretty brutal.

[StevenMosley]

Neal, Look at the schedule. I think only 2 weeks overlap.

11/5
12/3
12/17
1/7
1/21
2/4

[jberman]

Neal, Look at the schedule. I think only 2 weeks overlap.

11/5
12/3
12/17
1/7
1/21
2/14

2/14? That's a Wednesday... 2/11 or 2/18?

[StevenMosley]

fixed it is the fourth

[jberman]

Hey Sunday karters,

A good friend of mine who autocrossed years ago when he lived in Chicago is interested in joining our Sunday league.

He's not a member of MAC (track-days seduced him away from autox-ing), but he _is_ a very good driver: I went to the Acura HP school @ Mid Ohio w/ him, and have karted w/ him here & in Indiana.

Does anyone have a problem with him joining us?

- Josh

[BS1]

Does anyone have a problem with him joining us?

- Josh


Not at all...anyone is welcome!

[StevenMosley]

just send me the name

[SmokingTires]

3 spots left to fill in the Super Awesome League 8)

[porkbone]

Oh, I posted it in another thread:

I was planning on doing the karting league, but wasn't expecting it to start until after Thanksgiving. So I guess if there is still a spot open after this weekend, you can put me down for the remaining 5 events...

[SmokingTires]

Oh, I posted it in another thread:

I was planning on doing the karting league, but wasn't expecting it to start until after Thanksgiving. So I guess if there is still a spot open after this weekend, you can put me down for the remaining 5 events...

But it starts this weekend! Come on Chris! You know you want to :evil:

[porkbone]

But it starts this weekend! Come on Chris! You know you want to :evil:

Yes, I do want to. But tomorrow is a no-go. I'd be happy to start on 12/3, if a spot is still available for me.

[BergeGuy]

Chris, you could probably just sign up and have an alternate run for you the first week.

[ricksellner]

Is there anything I need to bring except myself and a checkbook?

[BergeGuy]

Your own full face helmet if you have one.

[Ivan]

Is there anything I need to bring except myself and a checkbook?

Your helmet (the rental helmets are stinky).

[ricksellner]

Does it need a snell rateing?

[BergeGuy]

According to their web site it just needs a full face shield. They didn't check my helmet on Thursday, even though it is snell anyways.

[ricksellner]

does it need shield or no shield?

[larry200]

It needs a full-face shield (but can be an open-faced helmet, as long as its fitted with a full-face shield, as far as I know).

-- Larry B.

[SmokingTires]

Does anyone have a helmet I can borrow? It appears as if I left mine in my Miata, which is currently sitting in Forest Lake getting painted :(

-Mike B.

[ricksellner]

Ill be safe and bring both of my helmets

[ricksellner]

Sorry I for got to say thanks guys for all your help.

[ricksellner]

Lets get ready to rummmble I've never been to procart before it should be fun.

[CDeutsch]

Does anyone have a helmet I can borrow? It appears as if I left mine in my Miata, which is currently sitting in Forest Lake getting painted :(

-Mike B.

They have loaner helmets. They looked decent to me. Just wear a balaclava.

[SmokingTires]

^
I did. It wasn't bad besides the odd fit. The helmet would slip back. I'll have my own for the next one. I'm almost on pace :)

[ricksellner]

Well the carts arent as fast as I thought but they are fun.No ill effects minimal arm pump and discomfort.Lot of seat time was worried about price vs seat time but there is plenty.Ended up last but not disappointed for never being there before or not being in a kart for about 9 years.

[SmokingTires]

price vs seat time

Barry pointed it out to me.

Autocross $35 for 6 Minutes = $5.80/Minute
Karting $28 for 17 minutes (roughly. 23 seconds laps, 45 laps) = $1.64/Minute

Good deal I'd say :)

I still like autocross more ;)

[AlexL]

Autocross $35 for 6 Minutes = $5.80/Minute
Don't forget to add at least $10 per run for tires and other wear and tear.

[rdub]

points chase
1.R Bowers 24
2.Randy W 22
3.Josh B 20
4.Ivan A 20
5.Alex L 20
6.Dave Bahl 16
7.Steve Mos 15
8.Chris Mos 13
9.Dean (sub)Mark 12
10.Barry S. 10
11.Terry 8
12.Mike B 8
13.Rick S 5

[rdub]

Still got a couple spaces open!!!!!!!!
Its a blast
Cool new track layout makes for better passing

[jberman]

Still got a couple spaces open!!!!!!!!
Its a blast
Cool new track layout makes for better passing

AMEN to that! It has been a few years since I karted seriously down there, and I really like the new layout.

The racin' was clean, competitive & FUN! After such a long layoff in karting, I'm amazed I ended-up as well as I did in the main event. I guess a good start plus a strong kart, looking ahead and lots of luck worked out. We'll see about the next session when the first heats invert by points.

- Josh

[porkbone]

Put me down in spot #14. I'll be there for the next event!

[ricksellner]

Hell for me I'll need cart 16 and to drop about 45 pounds and then learn how to drive.I might have a chance after that hehehe.Mike went by like I was standing still after he spun out.Also I hit terry pretty hard not sure how I was on brakes.

[StevenMosley]

It was a goodtime. I dropped .8 seconds off my laptimes from 1st session to 2nd session.

1st race I drove a blocking line the whole first race to finish third with Dean trying for about 10 laps to pass. Dean ran the cleanest race I have ever witnessed.

2nd race I decided to just let Dean, Dave, and Chris pass me after about 2 laps because I was not keeping up and wanted to figure out my line. It helped my lap times a ton, but hurt my finish. I was not sure what happened with Dave and Dean, but was shocked when they threw Dave back into his position after his tangle in corner with Dean, but left Dean in the back.

I can't wait for the next run. I will probably forget everything by then. It was good to get some seat time. I figure that Sunday I had more seat time then my autox season combined.

[DaveBahl]

Yea, Dean got the short end of that tangle... great job out there Dean!!! I came out of it with a pair of red marks on my right arm that I have no idea how I got. READY FOR THE NEXT ROUND THOUGH!!!!!!!!! = )

[StevenMosley]

15, and one to go.

Last chance

[Evan]

My kid wants to run so put him in if a spot is still available: Chris-Ivan DeJesus.

[jungle]

if anyone needs a sub, let me know, I can say w/ some confidence a middle of the pack score will be achieved. Sell me your spot below cost. I am starting a different league w/ a different car club so i can't commit time and money wise to running two leagues at the same time.

aaron...
952.270.3349

[StevenMosley]

it is full now

[BS1]

I'm taking a Mexican holiday, so I'm looking for a sub for Sunday 12/3 at 11:15am

Price: $25 (cheap)!

PM me or call 612-720-1661

Thanks

[SmokingTires]

Anybody want to buy my spot for the rest of the season? Recent un-employment means my fun has to suffer. $125 to take my spot for the rest of the season.

Thanks,
Mike

[porkbone]

Anybody want to buy my spot for the rest of the season? Recent un-employment means my fun has to suffer. $125 to take my spot for the rest of the season.

Thanks,
Mike

check your PMs

[SmokingTires]

Anybody want to buy my spot for the rest of the season? Recent un-employment means my fun has to suffer. $125 to take my spot for the rest of the season.

Thanks,
Mike


I start my new job Monday working less hours for more money. Thanks for the offer to take my spot Chris. Sorry that I didn't post earlier.

Mike "still at the bottom of the list" Brausen

[Darryl]

Larry is selling his Thursday night spot... He's mid pack and we have 4 weeks to go... Chris, take it, it's only 80 bucks...

[CDeutsch]

Larry is selling his Thursday night spot... He's mid pack and we have 4 weeks to go... Chris, take it, it's only 80 bucks...

Can I buy Larry's spot and Chris buys mine? :lol:
(me = sitting bottom of the pack)

[porkbone]

Can't do Thursday nights, sorry. I've got a spot on Sundays but missed the first event so I haven't paid yet.

[ricksellner]

Inverted start on sunday. I think if I cant get to procart sat I will let everyone pass on my right side.Until I get the cars and course down makes no sence holding everyone else up.See u sunday.

[porkbone]

This Sunday will be my first time in a kart. So prepare to see the true meaning of "suckage."

[porkbone]

This is my first week in the kart league, and I haven't paid yet. What time should I get there?

[SmokingTires]

Between 11am and 11:15am. They'll take care of payment once everyone arrives.

-Mike

[porkbone]

cool. I'll be there at 11:00am just to be safe.

[ricksellner]

Hey did anyone happen to pick up my helmet i left at prokart?

[the tick]

Hey did anyone happen to pick up my helmet i left at prokart?

Rick,

Tim (the guy that runs the place) put it in "his" locker there. You'll have to see him to get it, but it should be safe until then.

[SmokingTires]

My back was scratched up after running the LCQ and Finals back to back. My back has some nice red marks on it. It was painful to drive home.

I guess I'll be wearing a sweatshirt next time. Maybe even a foam pad to put on the seat. Keep me planted a little better :)

-Mike

[porkbone]

My back was scratched up after running the LCQ and Finals back to back. My back has some nice red marks on it. It was painful to drive home.

I guess I'll be wearing a sweatshirt next time. Maybe even a foam pad to put on the seat. Keep me planted a little better :)

-Mike

Or just be a fat guy like me. I didn't slide around at all!

I had a good time today, although I was amazed at how much of a "workout" karting was. Mostly that just means I'm out of shape. But next time I'm definitely going to drink more water!

[ricksellner]

Thanks tick for update on helmet.(I would forget my head if it wasnt attached)As far as sundays raceing great fun even better times then I expected and maybe just maybe if I can lose half sec and be little more consistant I might just make one of those finals hehe.If I were any heavier I wouldnt even fit in cart lol.

[rdub]

Sunday was fun,great grip right away
low to mid 21 second range
I had a medium day with medium karts
Bowers continues to "motor" away from us all
But I'm holding a slim 2nd place

[AlexL]

Sorry I missed it guys. I sorta forgot about it.

[gohard123]

thanks Rdub, im excited for next race day and starting at the back of the field. should really mix the field/points up. just hope everyone can stay clean!?!?!

I think mark should be able to give me a run for my money. he caught me in the middle of the final and then started to fall back right before i hit lap traffic. i was starting to get worried.

[SmokingTires]

Sunday was fun,great grip right away
low to mid 21 second range
I had a medium day with medium karts
Bowers continues to "motor" away from us all
But I'm holding a slim 2nd place

A little cash might persuade me to run some very specific blocking at the risk of getting black flagged :D

-Mike

[AlexL]

thanks Rdub, im excited for next race day and starting at the back of the field. should really mix the field/points up. just hope everyone can stay clean!?!?!
Maybe it was good to skip a week. I don't know where I'll start, but between my disappointing finish in the first race and completely missing the second, I must be in a pretty favorable grid spot going into the next one. :evil:

[rdub]

Mark was Fast ,where did he come from LOL
Alex,you probably will get a good start spot
Its all fun though ,I like starting from the back sometimes(that sounds wrong)
as long as the race is long enough

[gohard123]

mark is friends with Josh, the timing guy. they raced karts back in indiana together and mark has done some other track stuff is what he told me.

Agressive blocking leads to agressive passing. ;)

[StevenMosley]

Thanks tick for update on helmet.(I would forget my head if it wasnt attached)As far as sundays raceing great fun even better times then I expected and maybe just maybe if I can lose half sec and be little more consistant I might just make one of those finals hehe.If I were any heavier I wouldnt even fit in cart lol.

Rick, I found you 15 inches of snow to tackle. Go south to Tulsa. They had 15 inches last Friday and I guess it is not going away.

[ricksellner]

Thanks for snow update but im not into long vacations with people who dont speak the language. (rofl)

[StevenMosley]

Update: It is 50 there today. Snow is going away fast.

[SmokingTires]

Or just be a fat guy like me. I didn't slide around at all!


So I scratched my back yesterday, and noticed I had some odd dry skin back there. I had my g/f look at it, and she confirmed that it was the same two spots that I had red spots from after last Karting event. The movement actually broke the skin enough to damage it for it to need to heal over!

I'm wearing a sweatshirt next time, and looking for a foam pad.

-Mike

[jberman]

I'm wearing a sweatshirt next time, and looking for a foam pad.

-Mike

Rib protector: http://forum.mnautox.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5803

I had mine (a Sparco, but they're all similar) on last night & it definitely cushioned the blow of getting T-boned (note to self: do not stop at the apex of a corner, facing perpendicular to the flow of traffic) and sliding sideways in to a wall.

But a sweatshirt would be a good idea too (it gets COLD in there, man!)

- Josh

[ricksellner]

So do we have points stadings for this league of extraordinary gentlemen(hehe)

[ricksellner]

standings opps

[SmokingTires]

But a sweatshirt would be a good idea too (it gets COLD in there, man!)

- Josh

The added sweatshirt worked perfectly on Thursday. Great practice for tomorrow! I got my clean passing down better. It should be fun tomorrow!

-Mike

[ricksellner]

Is sunday sunday sunday lets go racing.

[SUV-ETR]

Thanks for letting me sub, Josh! And thanks everyone else for a fun time. Awesome, pretty-darn-clean racing.

[Ivan]

Had fun chasing down the 2nd-5th place pack until Alex tangled with someone and I clubbed him good. My biggest hits were from me not being able to avoid the pile-ups like that one... just got to be too much for an old back injury, so I packed it in early. Next time... :)

[SmokingTires]

pretty-darn-clean racing.

On your end of the drivers. I got put into the wall hard on my second lap because people decided to use others as their brakes. It lots it's fun quickly...
Nice driving though Neal. Holding down second to Bowers is something good.

-Mike

[Ivan]

On your end of the drivers. I got put into the wall hard on my second lap because people decided to use others as their brakes. It lots it's fun quickly...
Nice driving though Neal. Holding down second to Bowers is something good.

-Mike

Yeah, people got bunched up and bounced off each other pretty good a few times. I never try to tag someone hard... but I might have gotten you after I got rear-ended. Sorry if it was my bumper that took you out.

[SmokingTires]

Yeah, people got bunched up and bounced off each other pretty good a few times. I never try to tag someone hard... but I might have gotten you after I got rear-ended. Sorry if it was my bumper that took you out.

Gretchen said it was you that sent me into the wall, but that you had been hit by a few people first sending you into me. No hard feelings on it. It just sucked. Oh well.

[AlexL]

Had fun chasing down the 2nd-5th place pack until Alex tangled with someone and I clubbed him good. My biggest hits were from me not being able to avoid the pile-ups like that one... just got to be too much for an old back injury, so I packed it in early. Next time... :)
It's a bummer you had to get caught up in that. Every time I got alongside Barry, he'd turn into me to block. That time it just happened to be an apex that he stuffed me into rather than a straight section of wall. He's just lucky the race wasn't another five laps longer...

[ricksellner]

That was great driving Neal cause I had that cart the round just before yours and cart 13 was junk.So great job on second in final with that cart.

[StevenMosley]

Had fun again. It was good fun.

Mike, I'm sorry I bumped you at the begining of the first race. I let you back in place, but found an opening in the crowd after that to get through the traffic.

Also 13 was not that bad. It didn't have brakes and was a little loose which makes things very interesting in traffic, but it had some power.

[SUV-ETR]

Also 13 was not that bad. It didn't have brakes and was a little loose which makes things very interesting in traffic, but it had some power.

Agreed. And even the brakes weren't bad...when they worked. It seemed like there was a random 1-3sec wait between when you pushed the pedal and when they actually did something.

Chris was steadily catching up on me about .01sec or so a lap toward the end, mostly I think because of the brakes. I just couldn't get through the two big braking zones very well at all, but the kart wasn't bad otherwise.

Now, anyone who got stuck in #9 like I did on Thursday night (both races) knows what a SLOW kart is!

Ryan Bowers makes me sick. :p Last year I could just barely hang with him on a good run...but yesterday...wow...guy seems pert-near untouchable.

Neal

[BS1]

It's a bummer you had to get caught up in that. Every time I got alongside Barry, he'd turn into me to block. That time it just happened to be an apex that he stuffed me into rather than a straight section of wall. He's just lucky the race wasn't another five laps longer...


Alex, when was this? I passed you early in the main for the lead, and then got passed (cleanly) by about everyone else. No dirty pool intended - a few more laps and I'll be up to speed.

[AlexL]

Alex, when was this? I passed you early in the main for the lead, and then got passed (cleanly) by about everyone else. No dirty pool intended - a few more laps and I'll be up to speed.
You pushed me sideways to pass in the second lap and then never went any faster. I got next to you several times between turns 3 and 4 and every time I did, you turned into me to keep me from going by. Giong into turn 1, I had an inside line on you and you turned into me hard and put me right into the inside wall, where I took direct hits to the side from two karts.

[gohard123]

Ryan Bowers makes me sick. :p Last year I could just barely hang with him on a good run...but yesterday...wow...guy seems pert-near untouchable.
[/QUOTE]


Thanks neal--last year, when i subed for zac, i was a little rusty from not karting for over a year. i guess with a whole summer of karting under my belt im doing better. just wish i could win outdoors like ive been winning at prokart.h

[ricksellner]

Yes there was no brakes on that cart I hit someone really hard the race before cause I hit pedal and nothing happened.After that I didnt take any chances but u were in middle of nothing until the end so u may not have noticed as much.Looking at my times between that and cart 18 my tmes were off by.6 sec a lap.So not that bad is really bad for me HeHeHe.

[porkbone]

Now, anyone who got stuck in #9 like I did on Thursday night (both races) knows what a SLOW kart is!

Oh, hey... that's the kart I had in LCQ. Not that I can blame everything on the kart... I can't drive the stupid things worth a damn, either.

[ricksellner]

Either can I but I think I found something in that slow cart I'll have to if it works the next time we cart.(hehe)

[StevenMosley]

Need a sub for the 7th. PM me. $20 paypal

[gohard123]

looks like i might need a sub on the 21st. depends on what day i leave for cooke city, montana.

thanks

[larry200]

looks like i might need a sub on the 21st. depends on what day i leave for cooke city, montana.

Have a great time! It looks pretty good right now:

http://www.cookecitysinclair.com/webcam.htm

-- Larry "Snow? What is this "snow" you speak of?" B.

[gohard123]

yeah it should be amazing as always. last year i was out there for new years. i would love to move there for a couple months every winter. i think 70 inches of snow is enough.

[ricksellner]

Well what I thought would work really didn't help that much.Guys got back in groove and were rewarded with mid 21.sec lap times.I'm pretty sure I had fastest cart my first time out but couldn't do anything with it.Looks like I'm a high 22 or low 23 sec driver in those carts (hehe)

[CDeutsch]

I kinda of screwed up your points Steve. I was running 2nd in the second heat qualifier when I tried to make a stupid move to pass Barry (Sorry about that Barry, I'm glad you hung on for the win) and got stuck in the wall.

Then in the LCQ I started up front but the kart I had wasn't as good as the last one so I was off the pace which led to me getting spun in the first turn (no hard feelings I was bound to get passed in that thing eventually).

But I had fun, so thanks for letting me run for you!

Hopefully I do better for Ryan on the 21st.

Congrats to Dave B. for holding off Ryan in the final. And congrats to Ryan for starting last and finishing 2nd. Awsome run!

[jungle]

Oh, hey... that's the kart I had in LCQ. Not that I can blame everything on the kart... I can't drive the stupid things worth a damn, either.


I had #9 last sunday 1/06...what a pooch.....no acceleration and poor brakes.
I started #2 on the poll...i got bumped down to 6th..and I made it to 4th place....only because I was being super defensive and waited for the fights in front of me to end up in carnage and drive through it! :D I got in I think #22 the 2nd race and it was sooooo different it took me 1/2 the race to figure out how to drive the darn thing....

Let me know if anyone wants a sub...I will pay you (less than full price), and you will get "decent" results for points.

[CDeutsch]

I had #9 last sunday 1/06...what a pooch.....no acceleration and poor brakes.
I started #2 on the poll...i got bumped down to 6th..and I made it to 4th place....

Yeah, #9 is the one I had when I got spun right away. They really need to service that kart. It's horrible. The brakes aren't poor anymore, they're nearly non-existant.

[CDeutsch]

Let me know if anyone wants a sub...I will pay you (less than full price), and you will get "decent" results for points.

Speaking of which, there were a couple no-shows last Sunday. What's the policy on someone just taking these spots last minute?

[SmokingTires]

Yeah, #9 is the one I had when I got spun right away. They really need to service that kart. It's horrible. The brakes aren't poor anymore, they're nearly non-existant.

I managed to make it into the finals driving that kart ;)

[Ivan]

So, what actually happened in --the crash--? I heard bits and pieces of "steering wheel came off... ", "rubber to rubber", "kart contacting helmet".

Wish I had a camera. Pile of karts completely blocking the track is all I saw when Mark and I came onto the back stretch.

Glad Josh walked away under his own power. How big is the bruise?

[Ivan]

So, what actually happened in --the crash--? I heard bits and pieces of "steering wheel came off... ", "rubber to rubber", "kart contacting helmet".

Wish I had a camera. Pile of karts completely blocking the track is all I saw when Mark and I came onto the back stretch.

Glad Josh walked away under his own power. How big is the bruise?

Oh, I get it... what happens at Pro-kart stays at Pro-Kart ;)

[rdub]

yeah....thats it LOL
Thought I'd let josh say it

[SmokingTires]

Oh, I get it... what happens at Pro-kart stays at Pro-Kart ;)

Yes.. Lets not talk about anything that transpired there....

[DaveBahl]

Yea... TOP SECRET... hee hee hee... let everyone else wonder... hummm what happens there on Sunday's.

ANOTHER REASON SUNDAY'S ARE SO "FAST"!!!!!!!

[rdub]

1st rule of gokart club....don't talk about gokart club

[jberman]

Hey all,

Good news is I'm OK - limping but getting better. I haven't posted anything because 3 hours after the shunt (shemozzle?) I was on a plane headed to San Diego. Ever tried to go through airport security limping, w/ a bag of frozen peas in your bag? You get funny looks from the TSA, let me tell you.

Anyway, I was trying to work my way up from the back (made it to the LCQ by the skin of my teeth) and was closely following Chirs & Terry through the "esses" after the start/finish straight.

Exiting the right-hander, Chris' steering broke and the kart made a hard left into the outside wall. Terry crashed into him and the back of his kart came up. I was trying to get a run on him & Chris, thinking that they were dicing hard enough that I could squirt by, and by the time I realized that they had suddenly stopped, I couldn't completely avoid them.

Because the back of Terry's kart was up in the air, the nose of my kart fit neatly underneath. DOH! The back of Terry's kart rode-up a combination of my left arm and leg, chest, and the steering column, as me & the kart came to a swift halt. In the course of stopping, I think my head came forward and since I drive with my visor cracked-open, I think the edge visor caught the back of the kart, popping-off the little plastic piece that holds one side of the visor. Big thanks to Randy (I think) for finding that later-on; I put it back together & it works fine. There are no other impact marks on the helmet, so I don't think I actually hit my head.

When everything stopped, I was wedged under Terry's kart, with my knee stuck between the kart & the steering column, and the right-rear tire on my chest (thank goodness I was wearing driving gloves, sweatshirt, jeans AND the rib protector!) I was in a lot of pain, and Terry's engine was still running and was very loud and hot, and so my only (pretty panic'd) thought was to get the **** out of the kart and off the track.

I pushed up on Terry's kart and pulled my left leg out, then scrambled out of the kart & hopped onto the other side of the tire barrier.

I didn't think anything was broken, but my arm and leg sure were hurtin'. I couldn't move my leg into a position that didn't hurt, so I was just trying not to move it. When Tim & Mark & everyone came up, my leg was at kind of a wierd angle (and had black tire marks all over it), so I think people thought it was worse than it was. My hollering and carrying on didn't help either :oops:

After a few minutes of deep breaths, I could stand up & hobble off the track. I had a big scrape on my left forearm and a big scrape on the outside of my knee. My kneecap had hit the steering wheel so I started growing a real nice golf-ball sized knot on it (hence icing it with peas on the plane). I'm limping from the bruise on the outside left of my leg, not from any actual knee damage. Later that night I realized that my ribs on my left side had also taken a pretty big clunk, but thanks to the rib protector that was nowhere near as bad as it could have been (I cracked ribs karting back in Indiana a few years ago - that was seriously NOT fun)

Anyway, thanks to everyone who helped out & expressed concern! I'm sorry I wasn't able to stay in the race, 'cause it sure looked like some fun, competitive driving.

- Josh


So, what actually happened in --the crash--? I heard bits and pieces of "steering wheel came off... ", "rubber to rubber", "kart contacting helmet".

Wish I had a camera. Pile of karts completely blocking the track is all I saw when Mark and I came onto the back stretch.

Glad Josh walked away under his own power. How big is the bruise?

[phile]

Anyway, thanks to everyone who helped out & expressed concern! I'm sorry I wasn't able to stay in the race, 'cause it sure looked like some fun, competitive driving.

- Josh

Josh there are fools that would have jumped in another kart and carried on. You are the smart one.

[DaveBahl]

Well, I'm (as well as everyone else) glad your OK, it looked bad what I walked (ran) onto... Terry said he was sore too. Stories of Karting... aren't they great?!?! ; )

Glad your OK.

[SUV-ETR]

Because the back of Terry's kart was up in the air, the nose of my kart fit neatly underneath. DOH!

Holy crap! That's *exactly* what happened to us in the Thurs night league back in the 2nd or 3rd week. Salah and someone were scrapping just a tiny bit in front of me and Katie. Salah ended up in the wall, with me slamming into him from behind, and Katie doing the "ProKart Plunge".

Fortunately in our case, Katie is small and I ended up balancing my kart nicely on the steering column of Katie's kart without hurting her. But I couldn't tell that at the time so I was really worried, sitting perched up there not sure what to do next! Fortunately I didn't try to get out, since the kart would probably have come crashing down on one side or the other. Worse, because of the way my kart was pitched forward, I initially couldn't even help but stand on the gas!! Fortunately, I was also standing on the brake. I didn't hear any screaming from below, so after I managed to get my foot off the gas I just stayed put until the ProKart guys lifted my kart off of hers and everyone walked away without a scratch.

Wierdest feeling for me though. I hit Salah very hard, obviously, but when Katie hit me there was no sharp impact at all. Just a swift-but-gentile ride upward, using the front fairing as a wedge. Bizzare.

Sounds like we got very lucky. I'm very sorry you didn't! Get well soon.

Neal

[EWAustin]

...Wierdest feeling for me though. I hit Salah very hard, obviously, but when Katie hit me there was no sharp impact at all. Just a swift-but-gentile ride upward, using the front fairing as a wedge. Bizzare. ...

Sounds like when our old Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon got rearended by a Saturn SC1. The Saturn was totalled, we had a scratch on our bumper:shrug:

[SmokingTires]

They did a NASCAR start after the wreck :D

[AlexL]

I might not make it today. The car doesn't want to start. :flame:

[Ivan]

Steve, thanks for organizing the Sunday League. Had a blast.

[DaveBahl]

+1 GREAT TIME!!! Had an idea, if we ran a 200 lap event there BUT run it the other direction... all new brake zones, it'd be equal for all, the only thing would be the lights. Maybe if there was a caution it could be a full course caution... just an idea. We could see what Tim thought of that idea at that time. GREAT JOB TO EVERYONE!!!!!

[SmokingTires]

Dang it :(

I was out picking up a new car on the last day :(

[CDeutsch]

Dang it :(

I was out picking up a new car on the last day :(

Why didn't you let me know? I was waiting for someone to need a sub. ;)

[SmokingTires]

Why didn't you let me know? I was waiting for someone to need a sub. ;)

I didn't know I was missing it. I got confused on days and didn't remember that it was this weekend. :(

[ricksellner]

Thanks Steve never been to procart before this thing started.Good times there and shorten up winter by a lot as well.I never really got fast but I did take 2.5 sec off from my first times.

[Darryl]

Are you guys done... Results...

[StevenMosley]

I think Bowers won and Randy and Ivan tied for second.

Tim wants to put together a endurance race on the 25th. 100 laps with 9 teams of two. Let me know if you are interested. I will get the price from Tim.

[Darryl]

Steve,

Start a new ENDURO thread...

[DaveBahl]

ENDURO??????? I'm in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ; ) Randy??

[rdub]

but of course I'm in
E N D U R O

[CDeutsch]

Count me in.

[StevenMosley]

Steve,

Start a new ENDURO thread...

I'm not planning to do it. So someone else can run with it. I told Tim I would post it though . All I have at this time is 2/25/07 and 18 drivers capped.

[murph]

I'm in for enduro!

[BS1]

Me too.

[jberman]

I'm in, and my friend Mark Amfahr wants to as well.

[Ivan]

I'm in if it's not going to be the next 2 weekends. Working next weekend and then out of town Feb 22 - 25th.

--Ivan