2007 SCCA LoL Region RallyCross Schedule

[Mark Holden]

As promised in another thread, here is the schedule for this season's RallyCross events:

2007 SCCA Land O Lakes Region Rallycross Schedule

Date Location Event master (Contact)

4/29- Tax Break Cannon Falls, MN Guy Reithmeyer

5/20- Spring Fever Arkansaw, WI (?) Erik Dahl

7/29- Dog Daze of Summer Corcoran, MN Brent Carlson

8/12- Triple Caution Arkansaw, WI (?) Erik Dahl

9/23- Harvest Moon Cannon Falls, MN Tom Marlow

10/14- Oktoberfest Cannon Falls, MN Denny McGinn

11/18- Dirty Jack-O-Lantern Cannon Falls, MN Guy Reithmeyer



There may be additional dates added later in the season. We will post updates a few months in advance for these. All postings will happen in the Rally-MN and sccalol Yahoo groups with secondary postings going onto the www.scca-lol.org (http://www.scca-lol.org/) forums. Cross-posting into other forums and groups is encouraged and very helpful. If you have any questions or would like to become more involved with the organizing or running of the events, please feel free to contact me at the email below.

Erik Dahl ( awd1dr@yahoo.com (awd1dr@yahoo.com) )
SCCA Land O Lakes Region Rallycross Chairperson

I will post details (registration, directions, schedule, etc.) for each event closer to the event date.

[chuck b]

Mark,
how do the arkansaw and corcoran courses/surfaces compare to cannon falls.
i'd like to get to one or two this year
thx
out

[Mark Holden]

Mark,
how do the arkansaw and corcoran courses/surfaces compare to cannon falls.
i'd like to get to one or two this year
thx
out

The Arkansaw course is small and tends to be rough. Not a car breaker, but the landowner is not particularly interested in maintaining the surface, so it's gotten worse over time. We didn't use it at all last year, so nature should have done some smoothing to it for us. I've happily run both my cars there and will not hesitate to, but Arkansaw is not the place to bring a lowered vehicle, for sure.

Corcoran is smooooth. I run my summer street tires there, the clay has enough grip in places to leave rubber if you're pushing. Courses are fairly long to short depending on the arena configuration (it is used for MX races and sometimes we can't access the whole area). I believe the July date was picked specifically because it will all be available. This is the gentlest surface we run on, and has the biggest paddock area too, and is closest to the cities. If you don't make any other events, I'd tell you to keep this one on your calendar.

Cannon falls last year was somewhat rough, though the landowner did a ton of work to improve the course, and it was great. This year we will be running a shorter course (the one last year was 3+ minutes for the slower cars). I don't know details, but I'd be happy to see about 1/2 that. 3 minutes bouncing off the rev limit makes the Sentra all hot and bothered (cavitation over 6k rpm) though after switching the old coolant for water+water wetter it did OK.

[Mark Holden]

Finally the details on the first event of the season:

The 1st Land O' Lakes RallyCross event for 2007 will be held Sunday April 29th in Cannon Falls, MN.

The course is about ¾ of a mile long, with a combination of twisty switchbacks and open sweepers. Food and beverages will be available for a donation. This venue was a blast last year. It held up really well too.

As always, we need volunteers for course setup and timing & scoring. All competitors MUST work the course, when they are not running, and help with course take down.

The Land O' Lakes RallyCross Series is presented by Subaru.net. Visit www.subaru.net (http://www.subaru.net/) for all your Subaru needs.

Schedule:
Registration 9:30AM-11:00AM
Tech 9:30AM-11:30AM
Course walk 10:30AM-11:30AM
Driver's meeting 11:30AM
Parade Lap 11:50AM
Timed Runs Start 12:00PM

Entry Fee:
SCCA/SSAC Members - $40.00
Non-Members* - $50.00
*Non-members can join at anytime during the season to qualify for the championship.

Directions from HWY 52:
Take the Cannon Falls exit and head WEST on HWY 19 for 3.5 miles. Turn LEFT on 30th AVE and go .5 miles. Turn LEFT on 325th St. and go approximately .6 miles. The driveway to the event is on the left hand side. Please park on the left of the driveway. Regardless of what other internet directions might say, DO NOT TAKE 40th AVE TO GET TO THE EVENT. The landowner would like to keep traffic off of that street.

Contact:
Erik Dahl - LOL Rally Chair
Guy Reithmeyer - EventMaster

All competitors and spectators must sign the official SCCA Waiver of Liability(1). All minors present must have a minor waiver (2) filled out. Please download the registration (3) and identification (4) forms, and have them filled out prior to the event. The 2007 LOL RallyCross Championship will be run under the 2007 SCCA RallyCross Rules (5) and the 2007 LOL Championship Rules.

[Mark Holden]

Bump. Hope I see some of you out there this weekend. The SE-R is fixed up better than it's ever been since I've owned it, so I'll be pushing.

[SalahK]

Corcoran is smooooth. I run my summer street tires there, the clay has enough grip in places to leave rubber if you're pushing. Courses are fairly long to short depending on the arena configuration (it is used for MX races and sometimes we can't access the whole area). I believe the July date was picked specifically because it will all be available. This is the gentlest surface we run on, and has the biggest paddock area too, and is closest to the cities. If you don't make any other events, I'd tell you to keep this one on your calendar.


I think my brother and I may sign up for Corcoran!

My brother, who is a pretty good rally driver and soon to be FIA licensed back in my home country, might be in Minneapolis at the end of July. I'm hoping his skill behind the wheel of a Pajero Evo translates well to a Lancer Evo!

Mark, will my Hakka RSIs do well as rally tires, both in terms of speed as well as wear? Or would my Azenis be faster at Corcoran?

[Mark Holden]

Mark, will my Hakka RSIs do well as rally tires, both in terms of speed as well as wear? Or would my Azenis be faster at Corcoran?

Yes, they will do just fine. They may not be optimal (it will likely be pretty hot at the end of July), but the Nokians hold up well wear wise when it's warm, and there are some that feel that Nokians are better than gravel rally tires for RallyCross. The only time I'd disagree with that is if you have a limited suspension travel and a very rough course, then the strong sidewalls of the gravel tires would be of benefit. This course won't be rough, so it's a complete non-issue.

Corcoran is a very nice venue, with lots of paddock space, good viewing locations for those not competing, and it's the closest event to the 494/694 loop we run all year. Conditions can get a bit dusty, and we are required to keep that dust down, so if the event falls during a dry period, we have to water the course, which can make things a bit unpredictable from run to run, but that the only complaint I'd have.

Now, unrelated to Corcoran, here's an aerial shot of the site we're running at tomorrow:

http://mnautosport.com/images/CannonFalls.jpg

[SmokingTires]

Now, unrelated to Corcoran, here's an aerial shot of the site we're running at tomorrow:


Holy crap... :bigeyes:

I'm bringing out the GT-S sometime this year! RWD will be FUNNN!! :rockon

-Mike

[chuck b]

Mark,
how it'd go today? did you represent for the SE-Rs?

I'm hoping to get to the event on the 29th of July- your description sounds intriguing. I also have a tire and car question for you.
If I still have my SE-R, I'll bring it. Should I use my street tires (Yoko ES 100s which are a decent though not all out summer street tire) or my Blizzaks?

Now the car question. I am emotionally and mentally ready to say goodbye to my SE-R for real now, and so will be putting it up for sale more aggressively. I was hoping to get in one last rally event, but I don't want to wait until July 29th to start the aggressive selling. (Maybe a rallyxer will be interested in it.)

Do you see any problem bringing out a nicer/newer car to that event? I'd bring the Mazdaspeed Protege if the SE-R is gone. It seems like you get a good mix of newer cars and dedicated (i.e. older and lovingly beat up) cars.

Opinions appreciated.

[Mark Holden]

Mark,
how it'd go today? did you represent for the SE-Rs?

Well. In a word, no. I'm getting good at finding limits though.

This event was very competitive, with several fully prepped race cars showing up (rally & ice race cars). I run my SE-R in the "Modified Two Wheel Drive" class, which is essentially an unlimited class. The only reason I'm in the glass is my gutted interior, and the only reason I wouldn't be in the stock class beyond that is the cone-style short ram intake I run to keep away from water when working stage rallies.

So, what I found was, that with stock springs, stock struts, and cheap tires, if I try and attack the turns as needed to compete with the prepped cars, I run out of suspension travel, and eventually tire sidewall. And then I go up on two wheels and scare the hell out of myself and the guy riding with me.

I dug myself a hole before that though, I was just plain slow the first run set, after which I remembered that I do have a pair, and chopped ~10sec off in the second set. Third set was maximum attack, and well, see above.

The guy sharing the SE-R for the event beat me in my own car. He was just plain smoother on the first set, and took a second or so away from me there, and we ran very similar times the second, but he really spanked it on the last set (after we rushed to fix the tire I had torn off the bead).

Neither of us could quite get to the times being run by the prepped cars with gravel tires though. This event, the dirt was so dry, and it's so fine there, that it got to the point where there was a very deep layer of powder on top of the course, and the gravel rally ties did a really good job of biting through it. Usually it's not such an advantage.

Medeocre times were around 100s. Good times were around 90 s. On his last run of the day, Mark Utech ripped off a ~82s run which meant he picked up 5s on the then leader, to beat him by .8s.


I'm hoping to get to the event on the 29th of July- your description sounds intriguing. I also have a tire and car question for you.
If I still have my SE-R, I'll bring it. Should I use my street tires (Yoko ES 100s which are a decent though not all out summer street tire) or my Blizzaks?

Yokos. July 29th will be hot. Blizzaks will feel like they're melting off the rims.

Now the car question. Do you see any problem bringing out a nicer/newer car to that event? I'd bring the Mazdaspeed Protege if the SE-R is gone. It seems like you get a good mix of newer cars and dedicated (i.e. older and lovingly beat up) cars.

Well, as with anything else, it's all in your right foot. Corcoran is smooth, and I've run my WRX there several times, including when it was still shiny and new and my baby (nowdays, it's usually dirty, and hauls around my baby. Well, toddler. Well, he insists he's a "big boy!").

The SE-R is getting a brand new tubular header and high-flow cat before the next event (just arrived in the last few days). I'm also going to try and scrounge a set of used 14" rally tires at Headwaters (14" is a bit of a rare size, 15" is standard in rally). Need to find a better suspension setup though, and that's probably not going to happen until I can part with the $$$ for a full-on rally suspension, since that's where the car is headed eventually, and buying a set of, say AGXs & Ground Controls would just push off getting real stuff.

Need a real seat too. Tired of flopping around in the stock one. Actually, eventually I'll need two real seats.

[Mark Holden]

The 2nd round of the Land O' Lakes RallyCross Championship for 2007 will be held Sunday May 20th in Arkansaw, WI.

This is an older venue that hasn't been used in a few seasons. It is an old hayfield that we have set up many different courses in before. It will be a slight bit shorter than the Cannon Falls course. However, it will have a unique course layout with interesting twists and turns. We had a great turnout for a great event in April. Let's keep that going and build on it.

As always, we need volunteers for course setup and timing & scoring. All competitors MUST work the course, when they are not running, and help with course take down.

Schedule:
Registration 9:30AM-11:00AM
Tech 9:30AM-11:30AM
Course walk 10:30AM-11:30AM
Driver's meeting 11:30AM
Parade Lap 11:50AM
Timed Runs Start 12:00PM

Entry Fee:
SCCA/SSAC Members - $40.00
Non-Members* - $50.00
*Non-members can join at anytime during the season to qualify for the championship.

We have the online sign-up in place now. Goto
http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rall...on.php?event=2 (http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/registration.php?event=2)

and register for the event. This is not mandatory, but it helps speed up the process the day of the event. You will not be excluded if you do not pre-register, but like I said, it helps the day of the event.

Here is a map of the area with a route from Hwy 10.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UT...8031&z=13&om=1 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104645218645302499773.0000011245873510e8031&z=13&om=1)

From the Twin Cities
Take State Hwy 10 East from Prescott. Follow Hwy 10 to Arkansaw. Turn south on Cty Rd. N. Follow Cty Rd. N for 3 1/2 miles. Turn right on Cty Rd. SS. At top of hill turn left on Cty Rd D. Track is ~ 3/4 miles on the right. (There are signs at each turn starting Cty. Rd N)

From Eau Claire
Head South Hwy 37. Take a right on Hwy 85. Follow Hwy 85 to Hwy 10 West (in Durand). Follow Hwy 10 to Arkansaw. Turn south on Cty Rd. N. Follow Cty Rd. N for 3 1/2 miles. Turn right on Cty Rd. SS. At top of hill turn left on Cty Rd D. Track is ~ 3/4 miles on the right. (There are signs at each turn starting Cty. Rd N)

Contact:
Erik Dahl - LOL Rally Chair/Eventmaster

All competitors and spectators must sign the official SCCA Waiver of Liability(1). All minors present must have a minor waiver (2) filled out. Please download the registration (3) and identification (4) forms, and have them filled out prior to the event. The 2007 LOL RallyCross Championship will be run under the 2007 SCCA RallyCross Rules (5) and the 2007 LOL Championship Rules.

[SalahK]

Yokos. July 29th will be hot. Blizzaks will feel like they're melting off the rims.


Wait a second. You recommended me to bring my winter tires and Chuck to bring his summer tires to Corcoran. Why is that?

[Mark Holden]

Wait a second. You recommended me to bring my winter tires and Chuck to bring his summer tires to Corcoran. Why is that?


You have Nokian Hakkas, he has Bridgestone Blizzaks. Blizzaks are much more temperature sensitive than Hakkas, and in my experience have softer sidewalls which are much more prone to being unseated from the bead.

I didn't really say that you should run the Hakkas either, just that it would be OK. At corcoran, on my WRX, I actually run my Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s in 225/45-17 and while they give up some grip on the loose parts of the course they make up for it on the solid parts.

But these days I use the Sentra, and starting this weekend, it's on true gravel tires. Got a used set last weekend at the Headwaters rally and got them mounted up on my second set of rims on Monday.

[Protege Menac]

Hey, been out of the loop for a year or 2. I don't quite get the ssac membership rules.

If I hold a national rally-america license, does that mean I'm considered a member under ssac?

I work tomorrow, but I really want to get back into rallyx.

[Mark Holden]

Hey, been out of the loop for a year or 2. I don't quite get the ssac membership rules.

If I hold a national rally-america license, does that mean I'm considered a member under ssac?

I work tomorrow, but I really want to get back into rallyx.

SSAC is essentially a way for the club to put on non-SCCA sanctioned events, such as Stage Rally, and the road racing events that SCCA wouldn't sanction at BIR (and BIR wouldn't improve to SCCA's requirements under the previous ownership). It also allows members to be part of SSAC ($20) for a much smaller fee than joining SCCA ($80).

The RallyCrosses are sanctioned by SCCA and put on by LoL SCCA, SCCA members get the discount, and it is extended to the members of the sister organization, SSAC. R-A has no direct affiliation with either, and no connection with RallyCross, so having a R-A license has no bearing on RallyCross.

Any chance you're available to navigate Car 00 at Shooting Star June 8/9?

[Protege Menac]

very possibly.

I'm on a little rally break now, and a free event might be fun. How fast would the drive be

Sure 0 doesn't need help? :P

[Mark Holden]

very possibly.

I'm on a little rally break now, and a free event might be fun. How fast would the drive be

Sure 0 doesn't need help? :P

0 is Utecht/Bohn, so that's not too likely...

00 will be brisk, but not all-out fast, since it'll be my non-caged WRX.

[Mark Holden]

This event is also a Divisional, and as such a qualifier for Nationals.

Preregistration is strongly encouraged, as it makes our lives a lot easier, but it isn't required.

This will be the easiest event to attend, as well as the most forgiving surface we run on. It's a great chance to give RallyCross a try.

Dog Daze of Summer Rally Cross
Saturday, July 28, 2007
With a Rally-X school to follow on Sunday

Corcoran Lions Park
Junction of County Roads 101 and 10
In Corcoran, Minnesota

Saturday Schedule:
Registration & Tech Inspection: 10:00 a.m.-12:30 p.m.
Driver’s Meeting: 1:00 p.m.
Parade lap: immediately preceding each groups first run
Timed runs start: 1:15 p.m.
Dinner Break: 5:00 p.m. (grills are allowed, but no open fires)
Clean Up and Awards: Approx. 8:30 p.m.

Sunday Schedule:
Registration/Tech: 9:00 a.m.-10:00 a.m.
Driver’s Meeting: 10:15 a.m.
School: 10:30 a.m.-????

Directions from 494:
-From the North, take Bass Lake Rd/County Rd.10 west from 494.
-From the South, take Highway 55 west from 494 then go north on County Rd. 101.


-Food & Gas: 1 mile W on County Rd. 10

Terrain will be a mix between hard pack clay, black soil and loose gravel, gentle to cars. While every effort possible will be made to make the course as long as possible; we may, due to circumstances beyond our control and the nature of the site be forced to limit the length of the course.
Timing by hand held stop watches.

Fees:
SCCA/Sno States Members: $40.00
Non-SCCA Members*:$50.00
Not sure you’re ready to rally cross?? Come and watch-for free!!
*non-SCCA members can join at any time during the season to qualify for the championship
School included with Saturday's fee. If coming to school only, contact Brent for information.

ONLINE REGISTRATION AT
http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/events.php
Online registration is not required, but will make things easier on the day of the event!

As always we need volunteers for course set up and timing/scoring etc.
All competitors MUST work the course as a condition of event entry.


Passengers will not be allowed on Saturday as per SCCA rules.
Passengers will be allowed on Sunday provided they are at least 12 years of age, have proper waivers signed, and have an approved helmet and proper restraints.
Want more info? Contact:
Brent Carlson-Eventmaster: rallymaster@comcast.net
Erik Dahl - LOL Rally Chair: turboawd@lycos.com

All competitors and spectators must sign the official SCCA Waiver of Liability (1). All minors present must have a minor waiver (2) filled out. Please download the registration (3) and identification (4) forms, and have them filled out prior to the event. The 2007 LOL RallyCross Championship will be run under the 2007 SCCA Rally Cross Rules (5) and the 2007 LOL Championship Rules.

[Mark Holden]

Bump for Saturday/Sunday

[chuck b]

I hope to make it Sat! it'll be my replacement for MOWOG V

[Ultimate Grocery Getter]

Are SUVs allowed to rally cross? My wife's Acura MDX has all wheel drive and a much higher ground clearance than my BMW. It would be interesting to try but I wasn't sure if they would allow that type of vehicle.

[Mark Holden]

Umm, technically, I think the answer is yes, but IMHO, it'd be a really, really bad idea.

Ground clearance isn't going to be an issue at all at this venue, and rarely is at all, except at the roughest places we've run (and don't usually go back to).

[Ultimate Grocery Getter]

I can imagine that being a bit top heavy wouldn't really help in the corners, not to mention the potential of rolling the vehicle. If I go all bring the Bimmer, much lower, wearing all season radials and all wheel drive.

[chuck b]

hey- I had a fun time; more of you should have shown up!
Salah, you had excellent competition there- a fella from Michigan showed up in his EVO RS and promptly spanked all but Utech despite being stock. He was really pushing and had no problem controlling and managing his car with huge slip angles (right word???).

The course was ~35 seconds I believe and was fairly smooth if not gravely here and there. It was re-graded between run sessions on occasion (thankfully or I would have gone home early). I would recommend mud flaps- I wish I had them.
This was more of a flowing, higher speed than Cannon Falls. This favors the AWD over the FWD more in my opinion. And my autocross experience/precision couldn't shine through with only about 4 elements (Cannon Falls felt like 20 plus).

Mark Holden did the SE-R proud and finished high in the rankings.

I finished first in my group (Stock, FWD) out of all 2 of us! Whoopee! I would have felt bad not beating a heavy Saab. I finished 12th overall out of about 25-30, which I felt was pretty darn good considering my M+S summer tires are getting close to bald (I'm one autocross run from being on the wear bars). Good for autocross, not so good for Rallicross. The guy doing tech laughed and said using my tires would be like using rollerskates on an ice rink.

Anyway, fun event- thx for letting us know about it Mark. It was awesome flicking the car around.

Chuck
out

[aansorge]

What car were you driving, Chuck?

[Mark Holden]

The course was ~35 seconds I believe and was fairly smooth if not gravely here and there. It was re-graded between run sessions on occasion (thankfully or I would have gone home early).

The surface did get a bit rough at the end, that area had gotten over-watered and the surface all got chewed away down to the stuff that's like concrete below.

This was more of a flowing, higher speed than Cannon Falls. This favors the AWD over the FWD more in my opinion.

Very true. I think my best times as fastest 2WD were about 2-3 sec behind the fastest AWD (Utecht).

Mark Holden did the SE-R proud and finished high in the rankings.

Thanks. That is the best I've ever driven. Taking 100lbs out of the nose of the car helped a lot too.

I drove Utecht's car at the school on Sunday. I know now that my next upgrade will be a racing seat and harness. It was so much easier to concentrate on driving the car when you don't have to concentrate on remaining in the seat too.

I finished first in my group (Stock, FWD) out of all 2 of us! Whoopee! I would have felt bad not beating a heavy Saab. I finished 12th overall out of about 25-30, which I felt was pretty darn good considering my M+S summer tires are getting close to bald (I'm one autocross run from being on the wear bars). Good for autocross, not so good for Rallicross. The guy doing tech laughed and said using my tires would be like using rollerskates on an ice rink.

Anyway, fun event- thx for letting us know about it Mark. It was awesome flicking the car around.


You did what the AutoXers traditionally do to us, ran cleaner and faster because you were less sideways and held a better line. Your tires and their lack of grip are the only reason you didn't make a big dent in the prepared/modified 2WD classes.

aansorge - Chuck was driving the MazdaSpeed.

[chuck b]

the SE-R is gone so I punished the still shiny Protege.
I think the SE-R is probably the better car for this- 300 less pounds than the Protege is huge, horespower isn't that big of deal, and both cars have the limited slip. The softer suspension of the SE-R might even be better too.

yah, that was frickin fun- i just wish the course could be twice as long!

[Mark Holden]

Next event will be in Arkansaw, WI on August 12th. While Arkansaw is traditionally one of the rougher places we run, we will be using a different area than we have in the past, so it should be much smoother. I'll have more details once the rallymaster puts together the schedule, etc.

But you can pre-register here (http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/events.php).

[Mark Holden]

the SE-R is gone so I punished the still shiny Protege.
I think the SE-R is probably the better car for this- 300 less pounds than the Protege is huge, horespower isn't that big of deal, and both cars have the limited slip. The softer suspension of the SE-R might even be better too.

yah, that was frickin fun- i just wish the course could be twice as long!

I need to throw my SE-R on a set of scales so I have some idea how light I've gotten it. Still lots of easy stuff to pull off, though not so much under the hood anymore, and taking weight off of the rear won't be as useful. Battery relocation time soon, I think.

[chuck b]

my former '93 SE-R was slightly over 2400# stock, no sunroof, with AC, cruise, airbag.
AC minus the condensor weighed about 30#.
I'd guess you're around 2350. Keep the diet program going!

[Mark Holden]

my former '93 SE-R was slightly over 2400# stock, no sunroof, with AC, cruise, airbag.
AC minus the condensor weighed about 30#.
I'd guess you're around 2350. Keep the diet program going!

You're right, looking now I see the "Curb Weight" listed at 2419. I had thought it was closer to 2700 for some reason. I'm going to guess closer to 2300 now. Still more than can go (which will all come back when it gets a cage).

[Mark Holden]

Results are posted:

Yahoo Groups Rally MN - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rally-...%20RallyCross/ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rally-mn/files/2007%20Rallycross/Dog%20Daze%20RallyCross/)

or

http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/events.php

[Mark Holden]

The 4th round of the Land O' Lakes RallyCross Championship for 2007
will be held Sunday Aug 12th in Arkansaw, WI.

This is an older venue that hasn't been used in a few seasons. It
will be held in the old hayfield that is on the other side of the
road from the last time we were out there. It will be a short course
with some elevation change to it. However, it will have a unique
course layout with
interesting twists and turns. We had a great turnout for a great
event in Corcoran. Let's keep that going and build on it.

As always, we need volunteers for course setup and timing &
scoring. All competitors MUST work the course, when they are not
running, and help with course take down.

Schedule:
Registration 9:30AM-11:00AM
Tech 9:30AM-11:30AM
Course walk 10:30AM-11:30AM
Driver's meeting 11:30AM
Parade Lap 11:50AM
Timed Runs Start 12:00PM

Entry Fee:
SCCA/SSAC Members - $40.00
Non-Members* - $50.00
*Non-members can join at anytime during the season to qualify for
the championship.

We have the online sign-up in place now. Goto
http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/events.php
and register for the event. This is not mandatory, but it
helps speed up the process the day of the event. You will not be
excluded if you do not pre-register, but like I said, it helps the
day of the event. We have worked out the kinks so it will work the
way that we intended it to for the Corcoran event.

Here is a map of the area with a route from Hwy 10.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104645218645302499773.0000011245873510e8031&
z=13&om=1

From the Twin Cities
Take State Hwy 10 East from Prescott. Follow Hwy 10 to Arkansaw.
Turn south on Cty Rd. N. Follow Cty Rd. N for 3 1/2 miles. Turn
right on Cty Rd. SS. At top of hill turn left on Cty Rd D. Track is
~ 3/4 miles on the right. (There are signs at each turn starting
Cty. Rd N)
From Eau Claire
Head South Hwy 37. Take a right on Hwy 85. Follow Hwy 85 to Hwy 10
West (in Durand). Follow Hwy 10 to Arkansaw. Turn south on Cty Rd.
N. Follow Cty Rd. N for 3 1/2 miles. Turn right on Cty Rd. SS. At
top of hill turn left on Cty Rd D. Track is ~ 3/4 miles on the
right. (There are signs at each turn starting Cty. Rd N)

Contact:
Erik Dahl - LOL Rally Chair/Eventmaster

All competitors and spectators must sign the official SCCA Waiver of
Liability(1). All minors present must have a minor waiver (2) filled
out. Please download the registration (3) and identification (4)
forms, and have them filled out prior to the event. The 2007 LOL
RallyCross Championship will be run under the 2007 SCCA RallyCross
Rules (5) and the 2007 LOL Championship Rules.


123456

[chuck b]

some picts from the July event

[chuck b]

and again

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[aansorge]

'Gonna slowly turn that MSP into the Ser, eh Chuck? Which car is better for RallyX?

[Mark Holden]

'Gonna slowly turn that MSP into the Ser, eh Chuck? Which car is better for RallyX?

let's see...

#00 Mark Holden 1991 Sentra SE-R Total time: 132.57
#19 Chuck Bower 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege Total time: 137.26

But it's not apples-to-apples, I was running rally tires, Chuck had summers, my car is gutted, his is stock. My struts were shot (like piston falling back into the body with a thunk when taken out shot, zero compression damping).

I was only about 1.5s/lap faster than him, though one run was very close.

http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/results/2007/DogDazeOA.htm

[Mark Holden]

The September event has been postponed. Basically the harvest is happening later than originally planned due to the crappy growing weather this year, so the field is still full of soybeans. And while driving through a full field of soybeans sounds like fun, it'd tick off the owner something fierce. :)

We are postponing the Sept 23rd event until further notice. We hope that we will be able to sneak it in sometime towards the end of the season. Unfortunately the venue didn't come together, but we are still in the works of finding another venue for future RallyCrosses.

October will happen as planned though. Denny has been working on it and the field will be ready for us by then.

If anyone has any ideas for other venues for use in next years season, please get in touch with me. We are ALWAYS on the lookout for good venues to use. I am in the process of getting a hold of the landowners of a place in Cannon City that might let us play down there.

Remember, if you find a venue that we can use repeatedly, you can get a free season of RallyCross. We are here to help with any questions that you might have about what a site needs and what we can offer the landowners in return for use of the property. As always, you can contact me. My email is in my profile page or you can always post up as well.

Erik D

[Mark Holden]

The rallycross is on. The sanction is in, we have the insurance certificate, and the landowner says that he will be ready for us.

The event will be held at the Cannon Falls MN venue on October 14 with the first car out at Noon.

Dave informed me that he will not be able to have his food stand at this event. We will have to fend for ourselves for food.

If there is a particular job that you want to do at the event, volunteer early so you can have your pick. The big openings that I have now are timing/scoring and registration.

The rest of the details will be much the same as the other events and will be posted later.

Denny McGinn


Event Pre-registration (http://mnautosport.com/scca-lol/rally/rallyx/events.php)

Map to the site (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104645218645302499773.000001123944563e1bec0&z=14&om=1)

Typical schedule:


Schedule:
Registration 9:30AM-11:00AM
Tech 9:30AM-11:30AM
Course walk 10:30AM-11:30AM
Driver's meeting 11:30AM
Parade Lap 11:50AM
Timed Runs Start 12:00PM

Entry Fee:
SCCA/SSAC Members - $40.00
Non-Members* - $50.00
*Non-members can join at anytime during the season to qualify for the championship.

Directions from HWY 52:
Take the Cannon Falls exit and head WEST on HWY 19 for 3.5 miles. Turn LEFT on 30th AVE and go .5 miles. Turn LEFT on 325th St. and go approximately .6 miles. The driveway to the event is on the left hand side. Please park on the left of the driveway. Regardless of what other internet directions might say, DO NOT TAKE 40th AVE TO GET TO THE EVENT. The landowner would like to keep traffic off of that street.

[Ultimate Grocery Getter]

I have not been able to attend many autocross events due to work and family committments but I would love to try rallycross.

I've asked this question before and I'll ask it again: how well my BMW 325 xi will handle the surface at this venue. I could try using my wife's Acura MDX (great ground clearance but very high center of gravity) but I don't want to see what happens if I don't keep the shiny side up .

Judging from the pictures of the Mazda and the Sentra SER, it looks like a fun and challenging course on a smooth dirt surface plus the ground clearance would be similar to my 3 series. I just don't want to remove bits of BMW undercarriage in the process.

[chuck b]

Go! You know you want to.
My one event there last year was dry, dry, dry. towards the end of the day, some rutting did occur and that's when we quit doing runs. I think that was after 6 runs. Mark can let you know if they have some way of re-grading the track like they did at the event i went to this year (not Cannon Falls).
It also depends on what/how many vehicles are there, for how fast the surface degrades.

I'm not sure how bad it gets if it's wet.

My only wish with the Mazda, was for mudflaps.

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[magicsammy]

This is a great venue and it is a ton of fun.

I would be there if this did not conflict with another event.

[Mark Holden]

I can't tell you "Yes, your BMW will be safe." Not anymore than I could at an Auto-X either. You can break something doing pretty much anything.

In my 4 years of RallyCross, the worst damages I've ever seen from the course have been flat tires (and I believe I've accounted for more than half of them) and several plastic splashguards getting pulled off.

OTOH, right before I started, there was a car that rolled. It was a Suzuki Swift, with a high center of gravity, narrow track, short wheelbase, and it caught a big tree root that nobody had any idea was there (the previous vehicles had unearthed it). It was also a caged competition car that had been wheels side up before.

As far as I know, I've come closer to duplicating the feat than anyone else in those 4 years, as I blew a tire (took the bead off the rim) coming into a sharp right-hander. The struts were shot, no compression damping at all, the suspension bottomed out hard in a rut, the tire flexed and came off the bead, the rim bit into the ground hard, and the car went up on two wheels. It hung there for what seemed like seconds, but was probably a tiny fraction of one, and came back down on all four. Thankfully I had a co-driver in the passenger seat (ballast) and I was already setting up for the next turn (a left) and so I was steering out of the roll as it happened.

But I was pushing harder than I'd ever pushed before, and my equipment wasn't up to it. 100% my own fault. I learned from it, addressed equipment issues, adjusted some of how I drove, and am faster now for the experience.

The cars that seem most likely to get damaged are the old beaters, people with blown struts (and if someone can tell me a good way to check the compression damping of a strut quickly for tech inspections, I'd really love to hear it). Soft tires and poor suspension travel are factors too.

Every Audi I've seen rallycross has at some point or another torn off the plastic skidplate. They tend to be big, heavy, and fairly softly sprung, and at some point they manage to belly out. I've never seen anything worse than that happen.

I don't think I've ever seen a BMW rallycross. The smoothest course we run is the one we ran in July. This one is a soybean field, and while it's not as smooth, it's not terribly rough either, unless sections rut up.