Mowog 1

[RedlineToy]

First I apologize if I missed a rule change, but don't our events open for registration 30 days in advance. Please correct me if I am mistaken, I just want to register for MOWOG 1.

Thanks,

[Citizen_Insane]

I believe that they are available as of tomorrow. What I'd like to know is why there's no discount listed for club members. Will this be fixed by tomorrow?

[uRizen]

I believe that they are available as of tomorrow. What I'd like to know is why there's no discount listed for club members. Will this be fixed by tomorrow?

The cost of using the Valley Fair venue is much higher then other events, so the club is unable to provide discount pricing for members... which reminds me, I think I need to renew my membership. :D

[weidnerpaul]

I believe that they are available as of tomorrow. What I'd like to know is why there's no discount listed for club members. Will this be fixed by tomorrow?

Not only is there no member discount, the board members who usually get free entry for all the work they do pay the full price as well.

Everyone pays 30 bux.

(And this question comes up every year...)

See Adams post for the reason why.

[njbed]

I tried to register this morning. I get the error

"You must select an Entry Fee for this Event"

But there isn't a selection box available for the only entry fee listed....

[AlexL]

Not open yet...

[Citizen_Insane]

Ok, thanks for clarifying. I have no problem with that, I love the venue, I just was confused that there was no discount.

[MNbiker]

I tried to register this morning. I get the error

"You must select an Entry Fee for this Event"

But there isn't a selection box available for the only entry fee listed....

MOWOG 1 registration opens on Friday, April 6th.
MOWOG 2 registration opens on Saturday, April 7th.

For you night owls, that means MOWOG 1 will open at 12:00 AM EDT tonight. ;)

[ricksellner]

No school for kids tomarrow I'll be on at 12.00.01.

[Tyro]

For you night owls, that means MOWOG 1 will open at 12:00 AM EDT tonight. ;)

Ten minutes!

[AliensRgr8]

Registered #11, and first to post in the Mowog 1 after open registration began. Lets hope this trend continues and I come in 11 in PAX and 1st in my class on race day.

[ada///M]

registered # 12:rockon

so far 5/12 are registered under sts:evil:

[SEStone]

Registered, I'll be there Saturday, though probably not for Sunday.

Sam

[porkbone]

I looked in my crystal ball this morning:

I give this thread approximately 8 days before M1 fills up, and people start getting really mad again about pre-registration. Get ready to dig all the old threads out from last year! :D

[weidnerpaul]

so far 5/12 are registered under sts:evil:

I doubt that ratio will hold up, but it does show how "fast" sts is.
:lol:
Now you just have to prove it at M1...

[speedyham]

I still have to decide what class to register in. Maybe by tonight I'll have it figured out.

[AliensRgr8]

You can edit your entry up untill registration closes. So you could register for one class and then change it later if needed. Wow 62 people already signed up!

[murph]

I'm in!!!

[ricksellner]

Whats going to be cut off?Anyone know?

[Citizen_Insane]

Jess, I didn't realize you'd be running against me this year, rock on:rockon What tires are you running?

[psundberg]

Whats going to be cut off?Anyone know?

The event details says the maximum number of entries is 165.

[uRizen]

In for both, putting the car up for preparation tomorrow evening (adding my new magnetic cone deflectors.) :rockon

[ricksellner]

165 wow i hope the course is short.

[SmokingTires]

165 wow i hope the course is short.

???

We ran somewhere near 190 people last valley fair. 165 will be a breeze if we can keep timing errors down.

-Mike

[ot81to]

Since this thread is titled "Mowog 1" I figure this is a relevant topic.

Camping. :) Are there any camp sites near Valleyfair? Is there camping available on site? It'd be great if we could camp out the night between Mowogs 1 & 2. Assuming it's above 30*F by then.:rolleyes:

[73GT]

Sorry but there's no overnight camping

Hey Mike where did you come up with those numbers??
Last year Sat 156 Timed runs
Sun 164 Timed runs

MAC can do it but we need everybody to perform their work assignment and have fast turn overs between run groups.


Lee F

[Ivan]

Since this thread is titled "Mowog 1" I figure this is a relevant topic.

Camping. :) Are there any camp sites near Valleyfair? Is there camping available on site? It'd be great if we could camp out the night between Mowogs 1 & 2. Assuming it's above 30*F by then.:rolleyes:

http://www.townandcountrycampground.com/index.htm

http://shakopeerv.com/

A few miles away, but closer than Buffalo. 2nd one says they're open late April - September.

[stoooo]

I still have to decide what class to register in. Maybe by tonight I'll have it figured out.
XPt ? What on Earth did you do to deserve that ?

Stuart.

[speedyham]

XPt ? What on Earth did you do to deserve that ?

Stuart.

My car is too light according to the new rules(Damn Fascist Pinko Commie BMW Driving SCCA SEB), and I don't feel like running with a full tank of gas, the spare tire and jack still in the car. Even then it might not be heavy enough.

I'm not fast enough to be competitive in SM anyway, so I'll just be out there having fun- pretty much the same as every other year.

If I can get a STI 6 speed with the LSD front diff that conveniently weighs a tad more that my 5 speed I might move back to SM eventually.

[MNbiker]

165 wow i hope the course is short.
It won't be. Our goal is a 55-60 second course at Valleyfair for a fast stock-class vehicle.

With the open, easily monitored lot & efficient grid setup at Valleyfair, we can complete 5-6 runs per day with good event management. It does require everyone's cooperation, as late starts and slow worker changeovers cut into the number of available runs.

[EWAustin]

Alright, I'm registered for both M1 and M2 :D

[phile]

Since this thread is titled "Mowog 1" I figure this is a relevant topic.

Camping. :) Are there any camp sites near Valleyfair? Is there camping available on site? It'd be great if we could camp out the night between Mowogs 1 & 2. Assuming it's above 30*F by then.:rolleyes:

I think Mystic Lake still has a campground. Call them.

[Steve in Minnesota]

In for M1 and M2!

STX looks very scary! I guess my quest to NOT be D.F.L. in STX will have to wait until another season! :(

Steve

[ada///M]

just registered for M2:D

14 people in sts for m1 already:bigeyes:
how many more do we need so that larry, quimby, and both the sunbergs get a trophy?

[AQuimby]

What...... You don't want one?

[DasTT]

So i was going to wait till after the class to register. Do you guys think that I can wait another two weeks and there will still be room or should i do it now? If so, stock Audi TT is DST?

[stoooo]

14 people in sts for m1 already:bigeyes:
how many more do we need so that larry, quimby, and both the sunbergs get a trophy?
5th place is the new 1st place. At least for 9/16ths of the class, apparently.

Don't be so defeatist. The planets might align, the top STS drivers might make mistakes, and the also-rans might be able to take advantage. Don't give up before the season even starts !

Stuart.

[weidnerpaul]

So i was going to wait till after the class to register. Do you guys think that I can wait another two weeks and there will still be room or should i do it now? If so, stock Audi TT is DST?

Two weeks will be too late! You can always change the registration info later if you need to, just REGISTER!!!!! We already have 114 registered for M1 & 91 registered for M2, they may both be filled by the end of the week or earlier!
If you take the class and decide it's not your bag you can always post on the forum and someone that didn't register in time will buy it (look at last years posts at this time if you don't believe me)

Paul

[DasTT]

Sounds good, thanks for the advice.

[89yotarollagts]

Registered !!! & from the looks of it, ima meet another ae92 driver :bigeyes: :rockon

[phile]

So i was going to wait till after the class to register. Do you guys think that I can wait another two weeks and there will still be room or should i do it now? If so, stock Audi TT is DST?

I wouldn't wait. This baby is going to fill.

[rdub]

where's mikey

[weidnerpaul]

where's mikey

Talledega Mike?
Probably working, I think he puts in about 70 hours a week now (posts less too...).
:lol:

[rdub]

He's not signed up for Mog 1 or 2
thats not right....

[StevenMosley]

I still have not decided if I want to join this rally or not. MR2 hates that rough surface and the BMW is boring.

[washburn]

Ask Mike for a co-drive. :)

[FOCUS_ST]

5th place is the new 1st place. At least for 9/16ths of the class, apparently.

Don't be so defeatist. The planets might align, the top STS drivers might make mistakes, and the also-rans might be able to take advantage. Don't give up before the season even starts !

Stuart.

No kidding! But its the just the begining of the season and who knows how many of the 16, I think it is now, will actualy show up on a consistant basis. But it will be fun this year. A 5th would make me very happy with my severely underpreped foci!

[murph]

Ask Mike for a co-drive. :)

*ahem*, ask me for a codrive?

I think Mike's just doing M2, not M1, due to work.

Steven, if you're looking for a codrive for M1, it looks like I'll have a vacancy, I might be convinced in exchange for a few tips... =]

Weren't you going to MAM on friday though? That'd be a helluva weekend!

[SmokingTires]

*ahem*, ask me for a codrive?

I think Mike's just doing M2, not M1, due to work.

Steven, if you're looking for a codrive for M1, it looks like I'll have a vacancy, I might be convinced in exchange for a few tips... =]

Weren't you going to MAM on friday though? That'd be a helluva weekend!

I see Matt's more than willing to giveway drives on my brand new tires :lol:

Signed up for 2. I'll know on M1 tomorrow. Don't give away my spot yet!

[porkbone]

I see Matt's more than willing to giveway drives on my brand new tires :lol:


And you're more than willing to ask for drives on other peoples' brand new tires! :lol:

[SmokingTires]

And you're more than willing to ask for drives on other peoples' brand new tires! :lol:

Only in your car Chris ;)

And your tires have the ability to be rotated. I have to dismount and remount mine :(

[StevenMosley]

*ahem*, ask me for a codrive?

I think Mike's just doing M2, not M1, due to work.

Steven, if you're looking for a codrive for M1, it looks like I'll have a vacancy, I might be convinced in exchange for a few tips... =]

Weren't you going to MAM on friday though? That'd be a helluva weekend!

Thanks for the offer. I was thinking about asking someone to return the favor for a co-driver I gave them, but after the tire talk and knowing how brutal VF is on tires I honestly am not excited to runs R's at VF. (I have my corded V700's at home to prove it)

I'm trying to get into the Spring Fling at BIR with PCA, if that doesn't work out I might try and get to MAM for the Friday special, but if that doesn't pan out VF might be my last hope before COM's BIR practice day in May. I wish I had the time to hit all of them.

[porkbone]

Only in your car Chris ;)

And your tires have the ability to be rotated. I have to dismount and remount mine :(

Oh, so the money I spend on tires is somehow less valuable than the money you spend? Interesting logic!

[SmokingTires]

Oh, so the money I spend on tires is somehow less valuable than the money you spend? Interesting logic!

... :?

Odd conclusion

[murph]

Bah, I figure we'll need another set at some point in the year, and I'll be splitting the cost of that, so if we wear these out faster, it's just a matter of when I/we spend our money next, not if.

[ricksellner]

Did anyone but me notice mowog 1 is nearly full? Hope we dont have the snow rain mix we had the one year.

[SmokingTires]

He's not signed up for Mog 1 or 2
thats not right....

I'm glad you care so much Randy :)

I'm signed up for both days now. 8)

[esper]

Thanks for the offer. I was thinking about asking someone to return the favor for a co-driver I gave them, but after the tire talk and knowing how brutal VF is on tires I honestly am not excited to runs R's at VF. (I have my corded V700's at home to prove it)

I'm trying to get into the Spring Fling at BIR with PCA, if that doesn't work out I might try and get to MAM for the Friday special, but if that doesn't pan out VF might be my last hope before COM's BIR practice day in May. I wish I had the time to hit all of them.

If you want to drive a 300+hp station wagon with a half finished suspension let me know. I'll be driving on expendable stock STi tires.

[AQuimby]

MOWOG one full. I think I see there is a couple extra.
My work has anounced there will be manditory Saturday work coming up so making this event may not happen for me.:(

[weidnerpaul]

I looked in my crystal ball this morning:

I give this thread approximately 8 days before M1 fills up, and people start getting really mad again about pre-registration. Get ready to dig all the old threads out from last year! :D


Chris,
"Yes it's true - as of 1:43 PM on April 13th, registration is full for MOWOG 1"

You were off by one day as it filled in seven days - not eight (is that what the "approximately" was for, hedging your bet?
:)
Pretty darn close on the first prediction, now we'll see about the second...

[porkbone]

Chris,
"Yes it's true - as of 1:43 PM on April 13th, registration is full for MOWOG 1"

You were off by one day as it filled in seven days - not eight (is that what the "approximately" was for, hedging your bet?
:)
Pretty darn close on the first prediction, now we'll see about the second...

I am totally taking this crystal ball back for a refund.

[weidnerpaul]

I am totally taking this crystal ball back for a refund.

Your problem is that you bought the STOCK crystal ball without the "accessories" that maximize it's effectiveness --- Kinda like running an ITR with stock shocks, street tires and alignment.
:rolleyes:

[colonelcoitus]

MOWOG one full. I think I see there is a couple extra.
My work has anounced there will be manditory Saturday work coming up so making this event may not happen for me.:(

That sucks really bad!! MOWOG 2 still in your future?

[jberman]

MOWOG one full. I think I see there is a couple extra.
My work has anounced there will be manditory Saturday work coming up so making this event may not happen for me.:(

Re: Manditory Saturdays, tell your boss you've got 7 letters for him: F _ _ _ _ _ U, and no you aren't talking about "FUJITSU" :flame:

Seriously, I hope you're at least getting O/T for the Saturday. O/T = buy more tires sooner

[AQuimby]

That sucks really bad!! MOWOG 2 still in your future?


Yep MOWOG 2 should be for sure and I do get OT for Saturdays. I still am going to try to talk real sweet to the boss and try to work somthing out for Sat. The thing is I have already taken a few weekends off for my bachelor party, wedding, and some time off for after the wedding. I dont want to ask to much.

[LSV327]

Turns out I have to travel that weekend. If anyone wants my spot email me at LSV327@gmail.com. **** ALREADY TAKEN ****

[AQuimby]

STS is rollin 16 deep at MOWOG 1 and 18 deep at MOWOG 2, that’s what I like to see. The bigger the class the more fun it gets. Its the first time I have saw STS bigger than the street tire class. If this is any hint of how big the class is going to be all season its gonna be a good one. I am getting very impatient.

[MNbiker]

STS is rollin 16 deep at MOWOG 1 and 18 deep at MOWOG 2...
And maybe a bit deeper, by day of event. ;)

[AQuimby]

And maybe a bit deeper, by day of event. ;)

You droppin hints?


ALRIGHT........ Who gave Steve a codrive?

[ada///M]

STS is rollin 16 deep at MOWOG 1 and 18 deep at MOWOG 2, that’s what I like to see. The bigger the class the more fun it gets. Its the first time I have saw STS bigger than the street tire class. If this is any hint of how big the class is going to be all season its gonna be a good one. I am getting very impatient.

your tellin me! I just got my alignment today (and let me add it REALLY helps to have hook-ups) and jeez, I hate to play to much on the streets, but it feels amazing compared to last year! I cant wait to compete with 15 and 17 other people in similarly prepped cars, as opposed to last year where it was 30-40 randomly prepped cars in SI. I take it your making mowog 1 then?

[speedyham]

And maybe a bit deeper, by day of event. ;)

The magic bar of soap isn't quite ready for this year?

(booooo)

[MNbiker]

The magic bar of soap isn't quite ready for this year?
Hoosier isn't delivering 275/35-15 tires yet. :flame:

[AQuimby]

I take it your making mowog 1 then?

So far it looks pretty good , but things could change. I will not know for sure until the Wednesday before the event.

[stoooo]

STS is rollin 16 deep at MOWOG 1 and 18 deep at MOWOG 2, that’s what I like to see. The bigger the class the more fun it gets. Its the first time I have saw STS bigger than the street tire class. If this is any hint of how big the class is going to be all season its gonna be a good one. I am getting very impatient.
Yikes! 5th place is going to be tougher to get than I thought.

Stuart.

[FOCUS_ST]

Yikes! 5th place is going to be tougher to get than I thought.

Stuart.

Isn't competition great! I'll just have to drive the wheels off the car and hope for the best.

[AliensRgr8]

STS should be a great time this year. I will be there again, but this time with stickier tires, lighter wheels and a lightweight crank pulley. I would love to get an alignment but I need some camber plates to complete that.

[nick sundberg]

I can't wait to run STS this year!!! Sound like TONS of fun competition!

[engifineer]

Looking forward to it as well! I will also be in STS.

[washburn]

With such a big STS class, I'm kinda missing the V Dub. Oh well, guess I will have to drive an Evo instead. :(

[stoooo]

With such a big STS class, I'm kinda missing the V Dub. Oh well, guess I will have to drive an Evo instead. :(
Pull the turbo off and put some skinnier tyres on it, and I'm sure we'd let you come and play.

Stuart.

[esper]

Pull the turbo off and put some skinnier tyres on it, and I'm sure we'd let you come and play.

Stuart.

I am sure driving an 8:1 compression ratio NA 2 liter 4 cylinder would be blistering fast... I'd bet heavily against the evo in that situation, i believe the motor makes like 110 hp with no turbo.

[AQuimby]

I can't wait to run STS this year!!! Sound like TONS of fun competition!

I think we may be missing a couple of drivers on sunday. Whats up with that?

[ada///M]

20 now! Does that mean 5 trophies?!!?:rockon

edit: for M2 I mean

[MNbiker]

20 now! Does that mean 5 trophies?!!?:rockon

edit: for M2 I mean
John Jacobs from Iowa just registered, which means STS just got a bit more competitive. 8)

[Ivan]

John Jacobs from Iowa just registered, which means STS just got a bit more competitive. 8)

Cool. One of the nicest subie XT's I've ever seen. And he drives it well.

[AQuimby]

John Jacobs from Iowa just registered, which means STS just got a bit more competitive. 8)


This is going to be an exellent day. Once again I can't wait.

[engifineer]

Hey everyone. A bit of a newb question that I completely forgot to ask at the novice school. What are the rules around spectators? My fiance and son will be wanting to come watch some of the events I am entered in. My son is 11. My questions are:

1) Do they need to do anything other than sign the waiver?
2) If she drives her vehicle, how will parking work out? They may not be able to stay for the entire event, so her bringing her vehicle may work best.
3) Any rule of thumb on the number of guests allowed in? Not that I am bringing in an army, but one or two friends may like to show up and watch.

Thanks in advance for the help!

[Ivan]

Hey everyone. A bit of a newb question that I completely forgot to ask at the novice school. What are the rules around spectators? My fiance and son will be wanting to come watch some of the events I am entered in. My son is 11. My questions are:

1) Do they need to do anything other than sign the waiver?
2) If she drives her vehicle, how will parking work out? They may not be able to stay for the entire event, so her bringing her vehicle may work best.
3) Any rule of thumb on the number of guests allowed in? Not that I am bringing in an army, but one or two friends may like to show up and watch.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Minor waivers should be available at the gate for you to sign for your son.

Lots of parking at Valleyfair, the person working the gate can point you to the proper area. Or just park where trucks and "non-sporty" cars appear to be.

No limit to # of guests. They just need to stay at or behind the designated spectator areas when cars are running.

[engifineer]

Sounds great. Thanks!

[MacDubois]

Please bring along an army to cheer you on. Especially if they are cute cheerleader types... in which case tell them to cheer me on too. Just tell them to show up a little later, since the action doesn't really start until 10:30-11. And I'm pretty sure we don't allow children or pets on grid, but I don't know the exact rule pertaining to this.

Rule of thumb when parking, if the cars next to you have numbers, you be in the wrong spot. For some reason really cool cars can get away with parking in less legal spots. I think a viper and an Ultima GTR snuck past grid last year to park. But generally, parking near tow vehicles is a good idea.

[phile]

I think a viper and an Ultima GTR snuck past grid last year to park.
"If you don't autocross it, I'm not impressed" - Steve M

I keep seeing that Ultima AT autocrosses, but I never see it IN an autocross.

[washburn]

We try to get spectators to park on the East side paddock, away from the grid. Do not park in a spot that has a bunch of stuff laying on the ground...that's someone's spot. Also do not park behind a trailer. Someone pulled right in behind Mescke's car in Milwaukee and blocked him in. I will try to have flyers printed again this year that show all the areas and list site rules that can be handed out at the gate.

You do not need a minor waiver for spectating.

Children and pets are not allowed in the active grid area. Drivers have too much going to to be watching for kids and dogs. Basically, just have try to stay in the designated spectator areas.

Anyone who has friends coming should also mention about driving in and out of the site. We have had problems with people doing burnouts and tearing across the lot very fast. We will call the police and report those things...it reflects very badly on our club and may lose us the site. Please keep that in mind for ourselves too. Thanks!

[engifineer]

Thanks for the info. I can assure you that if any friend of mine does any burnouts or drives stupid while on the lot... they will be more worried about me than the police :D

[AQuimby]

Well I talked to the boss. I'm in for both days.:D :D :D

Now I just have to decide if I should stay up there for the weekend or drive back and forth both days.

[91TB78]

Any thoughts how long the event will go until on Sat? I'm trying to remember how long last year went. I keep thinking about 530pm or so.